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English LingQ 2.0 Podcast, EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5: Shelby Chats About her Time in Ecuador & Chile

EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5: Shelby Chats About her Time in Ecuador & Chile

Friday podcast#5

Elle: Hi everyone and welcome to episode four of the EnglishLingQ podcast with me Elle...

and today I'm joined by LingQ team member, Shelby. Hi, Shelby.

Shelby: Hi Elle. So to call out the elephant in the room, you changed your name?

Elle: I did. Yes. Um, I'm going to start going by my middle name, Elizabeth or Elle for short. So yeah, anyone who's been watching, please, don't be confused if I suddenly start using a different name, but yeah, it's 2020.

Why not?

Shelby: yeah, it's a perfect time for it. I love, um, I love it. I think people had a hard time pronouncing, um, Jahrine anyway. So maybe it will be a little bit easier for some of us.

Elle: I think. So. Yeah "jureen" was the, uh, the pronunciation. It's a Canadian thing I think. And it's a weird name anyway, so, but Elle is easier that's for sure.

Yeah.

Shelby: Well, we like you, whatever your name is.

Elle: Thank you. Thank you. So, um, so Shelby I thought it would be interesting to talk with you about your experiences in Ecuador and Chile today, because I don't know anything about them. I knew, I know that you speak Spanish amazingly well. And, um, so I mean, I don't speak Spanish myself to know, but listening to you, you sound amazing. You ran, you ran the, um, a live stream with Steve, the Spanish live stream.

Very cool. Um, so yeah, tell us about it. So what, why it was Ecuador first, right? And then Chile, you lived in both. Okay.

So, so why Ecuador?

Shelby: Yeah. Good question. Um, it comes up a lot. I, um, had a goal ever since I was in high school, probably around ages, 16, 17 to live in South America one day. And, you know, after graduating, I thought, um, it would be really cool to live in a big city too, because I'm from Portland, Oregon, which has become more well-known since I was born.

But, um, it's still a small city. It's not really what you think of as like city living. Um, so I wanted to live in a big city at some point in my life. And, um, a few years ago I saw this window of opportunity open up where I could start working remotely. And so I thought like, Ooh, like I could now go live in South America as I've always wanted to do.

And, um, I thought, why not kind of combine the two goals? Like I'll go live in a big city in South America. So, um, South America is a huge place. I didn't know at all where I wanted to go. So I kind of established what the most important aspects of the location would be for me. And I put them in a spreadsheet and I just started researching, uh, all those biggest cities and, uh, in South America and trying to optimize for those factors.

So they were more or less, um, you know, quality of life and cost of living, access to nature and hiking, um, you know, a good place to work remotely. So, you know, like easy internet access and stuff like that. Um, and relative safety too. Um, cause I was, you know, uh, 23 and going to move to South America by myself.

So, you know, mom wants to make sure this...

Elle: oh, I bet.

Shelby: ... it's well researched. It's going to be safe. So anyway, um, Quito, Ecuador, the capital of Ecuador, um, came out mostly on top and pretty much all of those aspects. So I decided to move to Quito, which it didn't turn out to be as safe as I thought it was going to be.

But I had a really great community. Um, I joined like an expats in Quito Facebook group, which was very active, very well, you know, uh, moderated, I would say. Um, and you know, there was a uh, I got a lot of great, um, resources and advice and insights, um, about like what to do and which areas to avoid and stuff like that.

So, you know, I was fine the whole time that I was there, but, um, it was not the best quality of life, only due to the higher crime rate. Um, and so like, it was not advisable to basically walk on the street after sunset and the sun sets at 6:00 PM every day in Ecuador, because it's on the equator. That's where it gets its name, actually, fun fact.

So, yeah, but aside from that, like, it was absolutely there and all of the other areas, I mean, Quito is situated between, um, two giant rows of, um, just staggering mountains. So it's only like a couple of kilometers wide and 28 kilometers long. So no matter where you are in the city, you look to your left, look to your right

and you're seeing these gorgeous lush green mountains. Um, and you know, at night they're just all lit up with all the different, um, lights from restaurants and houses on them. So it's truly beautiful and amazing hiking of course.

Elle: Oh, nice. Oh yeah. I guess so with those mountains and how, how long were you in Ecuador?

In Quito, right?

Shelby: Yeah, I was only there for three months.

Elle: Oh, okay. Wow. And that was, you left because of the safety issue mainly. Um, would you say?

Shelby: Well, the that was

why I was open to pivot and go someplace else afterwards. I wasn't ready to go home. Um, but it was that an opportunity opened up at the company I was working at.

Um, which is a vacation rental management platform. And, um, it's an international company. Um, we have, or the company had a few offices in Chile, one in Santiago and then one at the coast at Valparaíso. And so, yeah, it was a great leadership opportunity opened up down in Santiago. And so my manager reached out and said, Hey, are you like open to,

to going to Chile? And I said, yeah, you know, sign me up for that.

Elle: Great. And did you know Spanish then before, because I know it's a big part of high school in the States, generally speaking, Spanish class. Did you know any Spanish before you moved?

Shelby: Yeah. Um, so I took Spanish in high school and I was actually lucky enough to start in eighth grade, but I was still in middle school and yeah, Spanish is definitely a, um, It's like the main language that people will learn.

I would say, you know, learn in quotes because most people don't get the opportunity to really learn it for whatever reason. Usually it's that, um, you know, I find that there are not the best like teachers, um, and like all around. And of course students also find that it's challenging and because it's hard, they, um, they don't like it and they, they tend to give up.

So I just was really into it. And I was always really fortunate to get super solid teachers, um, for all five years. So from eighth grade through my senior year in high school, like. Studied it really enjoyed it. Um, and I had done an immersion program in Costa Rica for a few weeks, one summer, and that really helped as well.

So I had gained like, um, conversational fluency by the time I graduated high school.

Elle: Oh, that's great. And Kind of unusual. I feel like... Did any of your friends do the same? Where you in...was everyone speaking Spanish or French or whatever?

Shelby: No, no.

I don't

think any of my friends that I was friends with outside of school,

um, Like developed fluency or anything close to it. I was actually always helping them with their Spanish homework, but friends. I, I, Oh yeah. But you know, I, I was charging of course.

Elle: Good.

Shelby: Um, but no I had, um, friends that I met through Spanish class and of course, so like there was the group of us that were prevailing seen as nerds

I'm sure that was, that was the only thing I was good at though. I wasn't like good at other classes.

Elle: I'm sure that's not true, but that's a very cool thing to be good at. It's very cool. It's amazing actually. Yeah.

I don't know anyone who just from taking classes in high school came out conversational. Like we study Welsh at school where I'm from in Wales and French.

No one I know, came out, speaking Welsh or French, so...

Shelby: oh, really?

And how, how well, thank you. Um, I mean, it was like, I had great teachers. I don't think I hadn't had those teachers. I would have, um, succeeded. Um, but how many years of Welsh and French do you take in school in Wales?

Elle: Welsh, I mean, what taught from primary school or elementary school, but just bits and pieces, you know, nothing really, um, intense.

And then in high school, uh, from the beginning of high school, which is age 11 in the UK. Um, but uh, yeah, some teachers not very inspiring or just good teachers in general. I definitely didn't have good Welsh teachers. It was a bit of a mess, honestly, our Welsh education in my high school. And French, just a couple of years and I hated it.

And now I'm learning French because I'm doing it in a way that I enjoy, not those teachers weren't, weren't very nice. So, you're so right. I mean, it really, really does. I mean, you can have a passion for something, of course, but it really helps when you have an inspiring and motivating and friendly teacher, so...

Shelby: Absolutely.

Elle: For sure. Um, so then three months in Ecuador, then you moved to Santiago in Chile. Yeah.

And so tell me about that. Chile, Chile, Chile?

Shelby: Yeah Chile. Yeah.

Um, there's a, there'd be a lot, um, to cover like my experience there was really, um, you know, it was overshadowed by the work that I was doing there because it was a really big job.

Um, And I mean, it was my first time working in leadership and like a big semi-big company. And, um, it was, it was a mess, honestly, in the beginning. Um, I, because it was exacerbated by the fact that I had just moved to a new country too. So like moving to a new country by yourself is a pretty challenging endeavor and then, you know, taking on

um, a really autonomous leadership role, um, following previously kind of negligent leadership. So I was like cleaning up a really big mess. Um, and on top of that, um, you know, while I had gained that conversational fluency in high school that had been, I don't know, um, six years prior and, um, it was Mexican Spanish and,

like, yes, it's the same language spoken throughout most of South America. Um, you know, with the exception of, um, Brazil and, um, Guyana and some of those other countries on the other side of Brazil. Um, but for the most part, I mean, it's, it's Castilian Spanish. However, in Chile, I mean, anyone who has spoken to a Chilean and is already Spanish speaking, knows

it's a very distinct dialect and there are different dialects within Chile too, but, um, they speak incredibly fast. Um, they, they, um, like cut syllables out of words. Um, they also aspirate their Ss. So instead of saying "mas"' they're going to say "ma", and so you don't like hear that, that sound that you're used to hearing.

toto moment, um, was like a few weeks in. I had been looking for Mexican food because I, as an American, I eat a lot of Mexican food and I couldn't find any, and one day I was in a taxi or an Uber and the driver told me "Spanish", which I understood as "there's a lot of tacos in the street." So, um, I said tacos, where? Like street tacos? And then he goes, Oh, no, sorry, sorry.

That's our slang "taco" is how we say traffic and Chile. There's no tacos. And I'm like, that's like a double bummer.

Elle: How Disappointing.

Shelby: It was a big disappointment. I mean, Mexico is very far away from Chile. Anyone needs to look at a map if they think there are anywhere close to each other. So, you know, that was a lot of, it was a lot of fumbling in the beginning and actually like for the first eight months or so, I would say I had a really hard time holding a, an extensive conversation with any Chilean.

Um, but I met some great friends and they really helped me. Um, you know, stay sane and, you know, and acclimate too like, I, um, felt safe speaking to them in Spanish. Um, because of course it's, it can be really like demoralizing to just not know the right word and stumble. And then people think you're stupid and you know that you're not stupid, but

they have no way of knowing that because you can't articulate yourself, so, you know, humbling experience for sure.

Elle: Yeah. And in terms of, uh, safety then, do you felt safer in Santiago than you did in Quito?

Shelby: Yeah, much safer. Um, you know, safe safety is always relative. Um, but yeah, I would say Santiago was much safer and you could walk on the street after it gets dark.

Um, you know, of course always have your wits about you, but, um, the Metro, um, is a great system of transportation and then I could easily, you know, get off and walk several blocks.

So then in

Was there anything else that you can think of that jumps out as surprising or took some getting used to in Chile?

Oh, yeah.

Um, it feels kind of like New York when you're walking on the street, because there's just like so many people and it's like a metropolis, um, And it's developed. Um, and you know, every place takes credit cards. Um, whereas in Quito, in Ecuador, like not every place is going to take credit cards. And in fact, like they are going to really want you to have like exact change cause they don't always have change.

Um, so small things like that that make you feel like, Oh, I'm really in a different place right now. You didn't have that in Chile, but, out of any place I've ever been. I had the strongest culture shock in Chile. Could have been because I was also working there. And so I felt like culture shock from, um, the way my coworkers interacted with me.

But, um, like the big thing was the food. Um, they eat a pretty, um, I would say like a not incredibly variable diet. And again, coming from the States and also coming from Portland, Oregon. Um, if anyone's like read a blog about Portland or visited, you probably know it's like a big food city and there's just...

you just get like a wide range of food. So, you know, you're going to have the Mexican food, of course, um, a lot of different foods from Asia, um, you know, um, Thai food and, um, you know, lots of sushi and different, um, Japanese foods, Korean, Chinese food. I mean, there's just so much, um, You got very little of that in Santiago and Chile.

And they mostly just eat like the core elements of the diet are, um, different kinds of meat, like ham and stuff like that. Um, cheese, and also not like sharp cheese, but more like just kind of more bland cheese, I would say. And, um, bread, like really good bread. I learned that Chile is number two in the world for bread per capita.

And right after Germany. Okay.

yeah.

I met some Germans and Sheila who were like, yeah, like good breads here, but not like at home. Um, but yeah, I mean, it's amazing and delicious food. They also make, they grow some excellent, um, avacadoes there, but, um, I was vegan and gluten free when I arrived and made it really hard. To, to adapt. And I mean, I, I, I changed my diet, um, but I just found it hard to find, you know, good vegan options and like spicy food too.

Um, I find that like, of course I'm generalizing. There are certainly people who are exceptions, but the typical Chilean diet is like, you eat a lot of, um, rice, meat. Um, if you eat cheese, like really bland, almost like flavorless cheese, I would say. And you don't like spicy foods. Um, even like an onion, it might be considered really spicy.

And I feel like I'm throwing a lot of shade, but like, I, I talked to my friends in Chile about this all the time. Like you guys like. Need to expand your horizons when it comes to cuisine. And so, you know, I'm just, I like really spicy food. So I just struggled with that.

Elle: That's so sad when you gluten-free for health reasons or just, just doing it..

Shelby: Not because like I am have celiac or I'm gluten intolerant, but for health reasons, and that I found, I find that I like. Um, think better and have better energy when I stay away from gluten. I mean, I'm, I'm not strictly gluten free. I just kind of like, I try to avoid it and I don't make it like a main element of my diet.

Elle: Okay. So you did try some of the bread? Okay, good. That's good. That's good. I was going to say I love bread. Okay.

You can't beat like really good bread and really, full fat creamy butter is just...

Shelby: oh yeah.

Elle: Simple as good, but, so, okay. That was going to make me sad if you couldn't have any of that bread.

Shelby: Oh no, it's great.

Like, I, I feel bad, you know, for anyone who, who can't actually indulge and try it. Cause it's, it's amazing. They're the main bread, um, that you're going to have to try if you ever go to Chile is marraqueta. And it's sold everywhere. It's like freshly baked every day. Like even at the grocery store, as they sell the freshly baked stuff.

And you walk by like any cafe and it's just, the smell is wafting out and you're like, I need that right now.

Elle: Best smell ever. Baking bread. Good.

Okay.

Good.

Um, so you were, uh, working in an office then in Santiago. Or, you were working remotely? Oh, okay. So you were able to interact with other Chileans or was it in an office of people from all over the world?

Or a bit of both.

Shelby: It was a lot of Chileans, but yeah. Um, we had people from all over the world. Um, I was really, really fortunate. Um, the team that I, um, had the pleasure of managing there, um, was the customer experience department. And they were especially like a melting pot. We had a lot of Brazilians on that team.

Um, a girl from Venezuela, um, a girl from France. And I mean, we actually, we expanded the team and ended up bringing more and more immigrants onboard. Um, yeah, a lot of Chileans. And then Brazilians, I would say, would be the next largest population we had.

Elle: And is it, so Brazilians then they're speaking Spanish? And because it's not, as, it's not, they're not super interchangeable, right?

Like you don't just know Spanish if you speak Portuguese and viceversa or?

Shelby: Sure. Yeah.

I mean, you don't know. I mean, you, you do have to learn the languages individually, but there they are so similar and I mean, I can. I can understand. Um, I can read a decent amount of, um, Portuguese, um, and over time, as I listened to the Brazilians, like speaking with each other, and I got to know like their personalities and I was reading the context of the situation, like I was starting to understand a small amount of what they said.

Um, but yeah, they ha they had to learn the languages separately. And, um, the team that I managed, they, um, were all trilingual. So they all had to speak, um, at least English and Spanish and another language just for the requirements of that role. Um, and some of them spoke four languages. I mean, they're super impressive.

Elle: Wow, I'm so jealous of that. So...

Shelby: Yeah, it was, I felt very mediocre.

Elle: Well, yeah, just the two languages. What an idiot. And you're on your way to three now cause you're learning French. How's that going?

to try this and I got into it and was starting with the mini stories. And I found that I was actually like retaining a lot of what I was reading, which was so weird. Um, and...

Elle: surprising. Yeah.

Right.

Shelby: Yeah. It's not intuitive compared to how I've learned in the past. Um, cause I've used Duolingo before. Um, and of course I've had the classes, but this was like a full-on kind of immersive experience.

I'm like, I want to actually, um, study on, on LingQ right now. So...

Elle: excellent.

Shelby: I've never had an experience like that before.

Elle: That's great. That's a great place. It shouldn't be a chore, you know, we're taught, well, maybe not you because you enjoyed studying Spanish in school, but for a lot of people, you know, Oh, studying is a choice.

Even if you enjoy the subject, sometimes, you know, you'd like, yeah, just get through this content. But yeah, when it doesn't feel like, like a chore, like, uh, task you have to get through in the day. It's, uh, it's a whole different thing, you know, you go at your own pace and do whatever you want. It doesn't matter.

No, one's going to be testing you at the end of it. It's just for you. Yeah, that's cool. For sure.

Shelby: Yeah, absolutely.

Elle: So how long were you in Chile? Chile.

Shelby: Uh Perfect. I was there for 14 months.

Elle: Oh, nice. Okay.

And what, uh, What would you say you miss the most about the place the country?

Shelby: Um, at this point, I would say what I miss the most are all the friendships that I made there.

Um, people through work, um, as well as some people outside of work too. Um, I have some of my best friends still down there and the, you know, the people that I worked with, especially some of them, um, who I became really close with and um, really mentored them and got to see like them, you know, get promoted and grow a lot through the company.

It's, um, it's hard to not work with them anymore. Um, you know, LingQ stole my heart. I said, I have to go work at this other company now. But also, you know, just on a friendship level, um, I miss hanging out with them, but of course we've got, you know, WhatsApp and, uh, can stay in touch that way. And it's a blessing to be able to maintain friendships from long distance.

You know?

Elle: Do you think any plans, I mean, when the world goes back to normal, whatever that is, any plans to, uh, visit in the future?

Shelby: Sure. Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, and actually I went back, um, like I moved home in the beginning of, or like in the first quarter of 2019. Um, and then I went back actually in January of this year, so that was still through work, but I got to see my friends a lot down there too.

So, um, I would like to be able to visit for sure. And I would love like to go other places as well. And so a lot of the friends that I have are big travelers as well. So I said, let's meet someplace else next time.

You know, I grew up in the UK. I'm really far, but now I'm closeer, so it makes sense. So, um, I will definitely one day. And what advice do you have? Uh, I know it's a huge place and you were in, um, Ecuador and, uh, Chile, but, uh, do you have any advice for people thinking of visiting or even going to live in one of those countries?

Shelby: Yeah. Um, well, I mean, if you like spicy food, like be prepared that you're not gonna find a lot of it. So like bring, like have a backup plan, you know.

Elle: Bring those spices with you.

Shelby: Bottle of Sriracha or something. Um, and I mean, definitely do your research before you go, just like before you go anywhere. Um, You want to be prepared for, you know, how to pay for things, how to get around.

Like, don't, don't expect to be able to like go to an ATM and make a withdrawal anywhere that you go. Um, and that's general travel advice, of course. Um, but that little bit of research really goes a long way. And I would say also, like, see if you can find, um, Facebook groups, um, or there's so many other different platforms you can go on these days, you could use like meetup.

Um, and I think it's called like couch surfing, like all these different platforms you can use to kind of network with people, um, before you get there and ask them for advice. Um, but yeah, I mean, I would just say like, you know, be open-minded because the people and South America and the various countries within it, um, and central America, like they

than you perceived before going there. So like try to actually get to know the people at the every day level and sure. Like do the touristy stuff. If, if you want to, like, that's always fun, but to try to actually interact and get to know people, um, on the day to day level, because you're going to experience a whole different level of that culture and be able to appreciate it a lot more.

Elle: That's good advice. Yeah.

Well, thank you so much, Shelby. That was really interesting for me to find out as a, with us also working, not in the same place, it's really nice to get to know a bit more about Eve as well. So, yeah.

Shelby: Yeah. Likewise. Thank you. And, and what about, what about Elle? Um, what's one of the, I mean, what, what's one of the most recent or most favorite countries that you visited?

Elle: Wow. Oh, most recent. I haven't been anywhere in a really long time actually. Now that I think about it, I haven't even back... I'm from Wales in the UK. I haven't been back in a couple of years, so I think I always have to say Japan just because I lived there for three years. And yeah, like, like you mentioned with getting to know the people, you know,ever as intimately as, as you can, as a foreigner in a country, um, was just amazing.

The people there are just so wonderful, friendly, and warm and just the place is just so steeped in tradition and history. An it's beautiful. And I love it and I miss it all the time. I really, really want to go back sometime soon, but I think my son is two and a half now. So I think when he's around, you know, at an age, he could really enjoy it.

So maybe, maybe like 10, I think is the youngest, you know, before age 10, I think maybe just want to be playing and not going to sightseeing or whatever. So we'll see what kind of kid he is anyway, but yeah, definitely need to get back. That's a long way off, actually that's seven and a half years from now.

Shelby: I know

Elle: We'll see if we get there sooner, but...

Shelby: You've got to fit in some, some other trips before then for sure. Maybe not as far.

Elle: Yeah, well, I've never been to Portland and Vancouver is so close to Portland, so that's definitely on my list. So, and Marc, uh, my husband is from Vancouver. I don't know if he's been to Portland either, which is crazy really where he grew up in Vancouver.

But have you been to Vancouver?

Shelby: Yeah, I visited, but I mean, it was a really short, was that the only time? I think I've only been once. It was actually for my birthday a few years ago. Um, but you know, it was like a two to three day trip and there's so much to see there. Um, but I remember days in July and so I like just, I had, I mean, it's just beautiful, perfect weather.

And I went with my best friends and, uh, we had such a great time. I thought the whole vibe of the city, um, was perfect and I thought I could see myself living there one day.

Elle: I hear it's kind of similar to the vibe in Portland. Is that, would you say?

Shelby: I think so. I mean, definitely like you have the West coast cities.

And it's, um, it's so much more international. Like I was gonna say it feels more international, but it actually is more international. You hear multiple different languages being spoken. Um, I mean, I went to a lot of touristy places, so maybe that was a reason for it. Um, but being able to hear like Cantonese and French, and I heard a lot of Spanish too, um, and English, like all the same place that you, you don't get so much of that in Portland.

Elle: Oh, okay. No, that is, that is accurate for Vancouver, for sure. It's very multicultural. Yeah.

I think it's, I think it's...we're also 50% of the countries are a city in North America with the highest, um, Asian population. I think we're around 50% in Vancouver too. And yeah, I'm just thinking of my street. So we have like Persian, Chinese, Japanese, like, and there's a whole area in Vancouver, a lot of East Indian.

Yeah.

It's really, it's really cool. I do love that about Vancouver, for sure. So, yeah.

Shelby: Yeah. Well, it's important to get exposed to those other cultures.

Elle: I think

so yeah. And it's just like, yeah, it's important for sure. And just so lucky, you know, like to, to have that richness of, um, of culture around is nice. So yeah.

Shelby: Definitely

Elle: you will have to come visit because, uh, we would love to meet you in person one day.

The, those of us who were in the Vancouver office, not all of us, but those of us who are would love to have you up.

Shelby: Thank you, likewise. Yeah.

As soon as, uh, as soon as your country starts letting us back in. Yeah.

Elle: Such a weird time. I hope there's hope on the horizon. People are being vaccinated now. Finally, it's finally, I mean, it's amazing. Took them so long!

Shelby: I know it took long enough, right? I'm ready to start traveling again, guys. Let's get the show on the road. Yes, I would, I would love to come up and stay for a longer stay and be able to meet my awesome coworkers in person that live in Vancouver.

Elle: Excellent. Well...

Shelby: we'll make it happen.

Elle: We will, we will looking forward to it. Well, thank you so much, Shelby. And I will chat to you again at some point for the podcast, if that's okay. We'll think of some other interesting topics.

Shelby: Great. Yeah, I would love to. It's always great chatting with you, Elle. Um, and, and thanks so much for the questions.

Appreciate it.

Elle: Thank you. Bye

bye.

EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5: Shelby Chats About her Time in Ecuador & Chile EnglishLingQ|Person's name|Talks about|||||Ecuador|Chile |Shelby|Conversas|||||Equador| |谢尔比||||||| |Shelby|Gespräche|||||Ecuador|Chile |谢尔比|聊天|||||厄瓜多尔|智利 إنجليزي لينك|||||||| angličtina LingQ|||||||| |シェルビー||||||| |Shelby|Charla|||||| EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5: محادثات شيلبي حول الوقت الذي قضته في الإكوادور وتشيلي EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5: Shelby plaudert über ihre Zeit in Ecuador und Chile EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5: Shelby Chats About her Time in Ecuador & Chile EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5: Shelby habla de su estancia en Ecuador y Chile EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5 : Shelby parle de son séjour en Équateur et au Chili EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5: Shelby racconta il suo periodo in Ecuador e Cile EnglishLingQ 2.0＃5：シェルビーがエクアドルとチリでの彼女の時間についてチャット 잉글리쉬링큐 2.0 #5: 쉘비가 에콰도르와 칠레에서 보낸 시간에 대해 이야기합니다. EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5: Shelby vertelt over haar tijd in Ecuador & Chili EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5: Shelby opowiada o swoim pobycie w Ekwadorze i Chile EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5: Shelby fala sobre a sua estadia no Equador e no Chile EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5: Шелби рассказывает о своем пребывании в Эквадоре и Чили EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5: Shelby Ekvador ve Şili'de Geçirdiği Zaman Hakkında Konuşuyor EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5: Шелбі розповідає про свій час в Еквадорі та Чилі ChineseLingQ 2.0 #5：谢尔比谈她在厄瓜多尔和智利的时光英語LingQ 2.0 #5：謝爾比談論她在厄瓜多爾和智利的時間 EnglishLingQ 2.0 #5：謝爾比談論她在厄瓜多爾和智利的時光

Friday podcast#5 بودكاست الجمعة رقم 5 星期五播客#5

Elle: Hi everyone and welcome to episode four of the EnglishLingQ podcast with me Elle... ||||||||||EnglishLingQ|||| Elle|||||||||||||| ||الجميع|||||||||||| Elle: مرحبًا بالجميع ومرحبًا بكم في الحلقة الرابعة من برنامج EnglishLingQ معي Elle... Elle: Hi everyone and welcome to episode four of the EnglishLingQ podcast with me Elle... Elle: Hola a todos y bienvenidos al cuarto episodio del podcast EnglishLingQ conmigo Elle... エル：みなさん、こんにちは。私と一緒にEnglishLingQポッドキャストのエピソード4へようこそ。エル... Elle: Olá a todos e bem-vindos ao episódio quatro do podcast EnglishLingQ comigo, Elle... Elle：大家好，欢迎和我一起收看 EnglishLingQ 播客的第四集 Elle... Elle：大家好，欢迎收听英语LingQ播客的第四集，我是Elle...

and today I'm joined by LingQ team member, Shelby. |||||||team member| |||||LingQ||| واليوم انضم إليّ عضو فريق LingQ، شيلبي. and today I'm joined by LingQ team member, Shelby. y hoy me acompaña Shelby, miembro del equipo de LingQ. そして今日はLingQチームメンバーのシェルビーが加わりました。 e hoje estou acompanhada pela membro da equipe da LingQ, Shelby. 今天我请来了LingQ团队成员Shelby。 Hi, Shelby. مرحبًا شيلبي. Hola, Shelby. こんにちは、シェルビー。 Oi, Shelby.

Shelby: Hi Elle. Shelby||Hi Elle شيلبي: مرحبا إيل. シェルビー：こんにちはエル。 Shelby: Olá, Elle. So to call out the elephant in the room, you changed your name? |||||大象||||||| |||||Elefant||||||| |||||unspoken issue||||||| ||chamar a atenção|||elefante||||||| ||mencionar|mencionar||||||||| إذاً لتنادي الفيل في الغرفة، هل غيرت اسمك؟ Sie haben also Ihren Namen geändert, um den Elefanten im Raum zu benennen? So to call out the elephant in the room, you changed your name? Así que para llamar al elefante en la habitación, ¿te has cambiado el nombre? Quindi, per richiamare l'elefante nella stanza, hai cambiato il tuo nome? それで、部屋の中の象を呼ぶために、あなたはあなたの名前を変えましたか？ Então, para chamar o elefante na sala, você mudou seu nome? Так что, чтобы привлечь внимание к слону в комнате, вы сменили имя? Torej ste spremenili ime, da bi opozorili na slona v sobi? Yani odadaki fili çağırmak için adını mı değiştirdin? 所以为了叫出房间里的大象，你改了名字？

Elle: I did. ||فعلت ايلي : لقد فعلت . Lo hice. エル：やった。 Elle: Eu fiz. Yes. نعم. Sí. はい。 Um, I'm going to start going by my middle name, Elizabeth or Elle for short. ||||||||||伊丽莎白|||| Well|||||planning to|||||Elizabeth|||| ||||||||||Elizabeth|||| أم، سأبدأ بالإشارة إلى اسمي الأوسط، إليزابيث أو إيل للاختصار. Um, voy a empezar a ir por mi segundo nombre, Elizabeth o Elle para abreviar. ええと、私は私のミドルネーム、略してエリザベスまたはエルで行き始めるつもりです。 Hum, vou começar a usar meu nome do meio, Elizabeth ou Elle, para abreviar. So yeah, anyone who's been watching, please, don't be confused if I suddenly start using a different name, but yeah, it's 2020. |||||||||困惑|||突然|||||||| ||||||||||||all of a sudden|||||||| ||||||||||||بشكل مفاجئ|||||||| لذا، نعم، أي شخص كان يشاهد، من فضلك، لا يرتبك إذا بدأت فجأة في استخدام اسم مختلف، ولكن نعم، إنه عام 2020. Así que sí, cualquiera que haya estado mirando, por favor, no se confunda si de repente empiezo a usar un nombre diferente, pero sí, es 2020. そうですね、見ている人は、突然別の名前を使い始めても混乱しないでください。でも、そうです、2020年です。 Então, sim, quem está assistindo, por favor, não se confunda se eu começar a usar um nome diferente de repente, mas sim, é 2020.

Why not? ¿Por qué no? なぜだめですか？ Por que não?

Why not? なぜだめですか？ Porque não?

Shelby: yeah, it's a perfect time for it. Shelby: sí, es perfecto.||||||| شيلبي: نعم، إنه الوقت المثالي لذلك. Sí, es el momento perfecto para ello. シェルビー：ええ、それはそれにとって完璧な時期です。 Shelby: Sim, é a altura ideal para o fazer. I love, um, I love it. I love, um, I love it. Me encanta. 私は大好きです、ええと、私はそれが大好きです。 Eu adoro, hum, adoro-o. I think people had a hard time pronouncing, um, Jahrine anyway. |||||||saying||Jahrine| |||||||pronunciar||| |||||||aussprechen||| |||||||发音||| |||||||نطق|||على أي حال |||||||pronunciando||| أعتقد أن الناس واجهوا صعوبة في نطق، أم، جهرين على أي حال. I think people had a hard time pronouncing, um, Jahrine anyway. De todas formas, creo que a la gente le costaba pronunciar "Jahrine". とにかく、人々は、ええと、Jahrineを発音するのに苦労したと思います。 Acho que as pessoas têm dificuldade em pronunciar, hum, Jahrine de qualquer maneira. 我认为人们很难发音，嗯，Jahrine 无论如何。 So maybe it will be a little bit easier for some of us. |||||||قليلاً||||| لذلك ربما سيكون الأمر أسهل قليلاً بالنسبة للبعض منا. Así que tal vez sea un poco más fácil para algunos de nosotros. ですから、私たちの中には少し簡単になるかもしれません。 Assim, talvez seja um pouco mais fácil para alguns de nós. 所以也许对我们中的一些人来说会容易一些。

Elle: I think. エル：私は思います。 Elle: Acho que sim. 艾丽：我想。 So. لذا. そう。 Então. 所以。 Yeah "jureen" |tu sais |Sure, "you mean" |você é |朱仁 |du auch |你们 |ジュリーンだね |Sí, "jureen". نعم "جورين" Sim, "jureen". Ага, "Джурин". 是的“朱琳” was the, uh, the pronunciation. ||||发音 ||||Aussprache ||filler word|| كان اه النطق. era la, la pronunciación. era a pronúncia. 是，呃，发音。 It's a Canadian thing I think. bu||||| إنه شيء كندي على ما أعتقد. It's a Canadian thing I think. Creo que es algo canadiense. É uma coisa canadense, eu acho. 我认为这是加拿大的事情。 And it's a weird name anyway, so, but Elle is easier that's for sure. |||||de toute façon|||||||| |||غريب|||||||||| |||garip|||||||||| |||estranha||||||||isso é|| |||strange||anyhow|||||||| وهو اسم غريب على أية حال، لكن Elle أسهل، هذا أمر مؤكد. Y es un nombre raro de todas formas, así que, pero Elle es más fácil eso seguro. E é um nome estranho de qualquer maneira, mas Elle é mais fácil, com certeza. 无论如何，这是一个奇怪的名字，所以，但 Elle 更容易，这是肯定的。

Yeah. 是的。

Shelby: Well, we like you, whatever your name is. |||||peu importe||| ||نحن|||مهما كان||| |||||あなたの名前は||| شيلبي: حسنًا، نحن نحبك، أيًا كان اسمك. Shelby: Bueno, nos gustas, te llames como te llames. Shelby: Bem, nós gostamos de você, seja qual for o seu nome. Шелби: Ну, ты нам нравишься, как бы тебя ни звали. 谢尔比：嗯，不管你叫什么名字，我们都喜欢你。

Elle: Thank you. ايلي: شكرا لك. Elle: Obrigada. 艾丽：谢谢。 Thank you. 谢谢。 So, um, so Shelby I thought it would be interesting to talk with you about your experiences in ||||||||||||||||经历| ||||||||||||||||Erfahrungen| |||||فكرت|||من المثير||||||||| ||||||||||||||||background| |||Shelby|||||||||||||| لذا، أعتقد شيلبي أنه سيكون من المثير للاهتمام التحدث معك حول تجاربك في So, um, so Shelby I thought it would be interesting to talk with you about your experiences in Así que, um, así que Shelby pensé que sería interesante hablar con usted acerca de sus experiencias en それで、ええと、シェルビーでのあなたの経験についてあなたと話すのは面白いだろうと思いました。 Então, um, então Shelby eu achei que seria interessante conversar com você sobre suas experiências em. 所以，嗯，所以谢尔比，我认为和你谈谈你在 Ecuador and Chile today, because I don't know anything about them. ||智利|今天||||||| Ecuador||Chile|||||||| a South American country|||||||||| エクアドル|||||||||| الإكوادور وتشيلي اليوم، لأنني لا أعرف عنهما شيئًا. Ecuador and Chile today, because I don't know anything about them. Ecuador y Chile hoy, porque no sé nada de ellos. 今日のエクアドルとチリ、私は彼らについて何も知らないので。 Equador e Chile hoje, porque não sei nada sobre eles. 今天是厄瓜多尔和智利，因为我对他们一无所知。 I knew, I know that you speak Spanish amazingly well. |||||||西班牙语|令人惊讶地| ||||||||étonnamment bien| |||||||Spanisch|erstaunlich| |||||||Spanish|incredibly| ||||||||surpreendentemente| كنت أعلم، أعلم أنك تتحدث الإسبانية جيدًا بشكل مثير للدهشة. Věděl jsem, vím, že mluvíš španělsky úžasně dobře. I knew, I know that you speak Spanish amazingly well. Lo sabía, sé que hablas español increíblemente bien. Eu sabia, eu sei que falas espanhol espantosamente bem. 我知道，我知道你西班牙语说得非常好。 And, um, so I mean, I don't speak Spanish myself to know, but listening to you, you sound amazing. ||||||||||||||||||incroyable وأعني أنني لا أتحدث الإسبانية بنفسي لأعرفها، لكن الاستماع إليك يبدو رائعًا. A, um, tedy chci říct, že sám nemluvím španělsky, abych to věděl, ale když vás poslouchám, zníte úžasně. Y, um, así que quiero decir, yo no hablo español a mí mismo para saber, pero escuchando a usted, usted suena increíble. E, ehm, quindi, voglio dire, non parlo spagnolo per saperlo, ma ascoltandoti, sembri incredibile. E, hum, então quero dizer, eu não falo espanhol para saber, mas ouvindo você, você parece incrível. 而且，嗯，所以我的意思是，我自己不会说西班牙语，但听你说，你听起来很棒。 You ran, you ran the, um, a live stream with Steve, the Spanish live stream. |||进行了|||||直播|||||| ||||||||Übertragung|||||| |hosted||hosted||||real-time broadcast|broadcast|||||| |fez|||||||transmissão ao vivo|||||| لقد قمت بتشغيل البث المباشر مع ستيف، البث المباشر باللغة الإسبانية. Běželi jste, běželi jste, ehm, živý přenos se Stevem, španělský živý přenos. Dirigiste, dirigiste la, um, una retransmisión en directo con Steve, la retransmisión en directo en español. Hai gestito il live stream con Steve, il live stream spagnolo. Você correu, você fez a, hum, uma transmissão ao vivo com Steve, a transmissão ao vivo em espanhol. 你跑了，你跑了，嗯，和史蒂夫一起直播，西班牙直播。

Very cool. |impressive Skvělý. Very cool. Muy guay. Muito fixe. Um, so yeah, tell us about it. أم، نعم، أخبرنا عن ذلك. Um, así que sí, cuéntanoslo. Hum, então sim, fala-nos sobre isso. So what, why it was Ecuador first, right? فماذا إذن، لماذا كانت الإكوادور أولاً، أليس كذلك؟ Y qué, ¿por qué fue primero Ecuador, no? E então, porque é que foi o Equador primeiro, certo? And then Chile, you lived in both. ثم تشيلي، لقد عشت في كليهما. Y luego Chile, viviste en ambos. E depois, no Chile, viveu em ambos. Okay. Está bem.

So, so why Ecuador? |||厄瓜多尔 |||الإكوادور Então, porquê o Equador?

Shelby: Yeah. Shelby: Sim. Good question. Buena pregunta. Boa pergunta. Um, it comes up a lot. أم، فإنه يأتي كثيرا. Hm, přijde toho hodně. Surge mucho. Viene fuori spesso. Hum, surge muito. Bu çok sık gündeme geliyor. I, um, had a goal ever since I was in high school, probably around ages, 16, 17 to live in South America one day. ||||||||||||||大约16岁||||||| |||||ever since||||||||approximately|my||||||| ||||||以来||||||||||||||| لقد كان لدي هدف منذ أن كنت في المدرسة الثانوية، ربما في عمر 16 أو 17 عامًا، وهو أن أعيش في أمريكا الجنوبية يومًا ما. Už od střední školy jsem měl cíl, pravděpodobně ve věku 16, 17 let, žít jednoho dne v Jižní Americe. Desde que estaba en el instituto, probablemente a los 16 o 17 años, me propuse vivir algún día en Sudamérica. Fin da quando ero al liceo, probabilmente intorno ai 16 o 17 anni, avevo l'obiettivo di vivere un giorno in Sud America. Eu, um, tinha uma meta desde que estava no colégio, provavelmente com cerca de 16, 17 anos, de morar na América do Sul um dia. And, you know, after graduating, I thought, um, it would be really cool to live in a big city too, because I'm from Portland, Oregon, which has become more well-known since I was born. ||||finishing school|||||||||||||||||||Portland Oregon|Oregon|||||||||| ||||formar|||||||||||||||||||Portland|Oregon|||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||||波特兰||||||||||| ||||Abschluss|||||||||||||||||||Portland|Oregon|||||||||| ||||毕业后|||||||||||||||||||波特兰|俄勒冈州|||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||||Portland|Oregón|||||||||| وكما تعلمون، بعد التخرج، اعتقدت أنه سيكون من الرائع حقًا العيش في مدينة كبيرة أيضًا، لأنني من بورتلاند، أوريغون، والتي أصبحت أكثر شهرة منذ ولادتي. A, víte, po promoci jsem si říkal, ehm, bylo by opravdu skvělé žít také ve velkém městě, protože pocházím z Portlandu v Oregonu, který se od mého narození stal známějším. Y, ya sabes, después de graduarme, pensé, sería genial vivir en una gran ciudad también, porque soy de Portland, Oregón, que se ha vuelto más conocido desde que nací. E dopo la laurea ho pensato che sarebbe stato bello vivere in una grande città, perché io vengo da Portland, nell'Oregon, che è diventata più famosa da quando sono nata.

But, um, it's still a small city. لكنها لا تزال مدينة صغيرة. Pero sigue siendo una ciudad pequeña. It's not really what you think of as like city living. إنه ليس حقًا ما تعتقد أنه يشبه الحياة في المدينة. Ve skutečnosti to není to, co si představujete jako život ve městě. No es lo que se considera vivir en una ciudad. Non è proprio quello che si pensa di vivere in città. Não é bem o que se pensa sobre a vida na cidade. Um, so I wanted to live in a big city at some point in my life. حسنًا، أردت أن أعيش في مدينة كبيرة في مرحلة ما من حياتي. Quería vivir en una gran ciudad en algún momento de mi vida. And, um, a few years ago I saw this window of opportunity open up where I could start working remotely. |||||||||||||||||||远程工作 |||||||||||||||||||von zu Hause |||||||||기회|||||||||| |||||||||janela||||||||||remotamente |||||||||||||||||||from home وقبل بضع سنوات رأيت هذه الفرصة السانحة مفتوحة حيث يمكنني البدء في العمل عن بعد. A, um, před pár lety jsem viděl, jak se otevřelo toto okno příležitosti, kde bych mohl začít pracovat na dálku. And so I thought like, Ooh, like I could now go live in South America as I've always wanted to do. |||||Oh||||||||||||||| |||||excited realization||||||||||||||| ولذا فكرت، أوه، كما لو كان بإمكاني الآن العيش في أمريكا الجنوبية كما أردت دائمًا أن أفعل. A tak jsem si říkal: Ooh, jako bych teď mohl žít v Jižní Americe, jak jsem vždycky chtěl. És így gondoltam, ó, mintha most elmehetnék Dél-Amerikába élni, ahogy mindig is szerettem volna. E così ho pensato: "Oh, ora potrei andare a vivere in Sud America, come ho sempre voluto fare".

And, um, I thought, why not kind of combine the two goals? ||||||||结合||| ||||||||merge||| وفكرت، لماذا لا يتم الجمع بين الهدفين؟ E pensei, porque não combinar os dois objectivos? Like I'll go live in a big city in South America. كأنني سأعيش في مدينة كبيرة في أمريكا الجنوبية. So, um, South America is a huge place. ||||||büyük| لذا، أمريكا الجنوبية مكان ضخم. I didn't know at all where I wanted to go. لم أكن أعرف على الإطلاق إلى أين أردت الذهاب. So I kind of established what the most important aspects of the location would be for me. ||||determined|||||key elements|||place|||| ||||||||||||localização|||| |||||||||Aspekte||||||| ||||belirledim||||önemli|||||||| ||in un certo senso|||||||||||||| ||||确定了|||||方面||||||| |||||||||جوانب||||||| لذلك حددت نوعًا ما أهم جوانب الموقع بالنسبة لي. Tak jsem si tak trochu ujasnil, jaké pro mě budou nejdůležitější aspekty umístění. Così ho stabilito quali fossero gli aspetti più importanti della location per me. Так что я как бы установил, какие аспекты этого места будут для меня наиболее важными. Bu yüzden, konumun benim için en önemli yönlerinin ne olacağını belirledim. 所以我确定了这个地点对我来说最重要的方面是什么。 And I put them in a spreadsheet and I just started researching, uh, all those biggest cities and, uh, in South America and trying to optimize for those factors. ||||||tableur|||||||||||||||||||||| |||the factors|||data table|||||looking into||||||||||||||improve efficiency for|||criteria ||||||planilha|||||pesquisando||||||||||||||otimizar||| ||||||試算表|||||||||||||||||||優化(1)||| ||||||Tabelle|||||recherchieren||||||||||||||optimieren|||Faktoren ||||||bir elektronik tablo|||||araştırmaya başladım||||||||||||||||| ||||||foglio di calcolo|||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||tabuľka|||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||电子表格||||||||||城市|||||||||优化|||因素 ||||||스프레드시트|||||||||||||||||||최적화하다||| ||||||スプレッドシート|||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||hoja de cálculo|||||||||||||||||||||| ووضعتها في جدول بيانات وبدأت للتو في البحث عن كل تلك المدن الكبرى وفي أمريكا الجنوبية ومحاولة تحسين هذه العوامل. A dal jsem je do tabulky a právě jsem začal zkoumat, uh, všechna ta největší města a, uh, v Jižní Americe a snažil jsem se optimalizovat pro tyto faktory. Y los puse en una hoja de cálculo y comencé a investigar, eh, todas esas ciudades más grandes y, eh, en América del Sur y tratando de optimizar esos factores. Li ho inseriti in un foglio di calcolo e ho iniziato a fare ricerche su tutte le città più grandi e in Sud America, cercando di ottimizzare i fattori. Coloquei-os numa folha de cálculo e comecei a pesquisar todas essas grandes cidades e na América do Sul e a tentar otimizar esses factores. Bunları bir hesap tablosuna koydum ve Güney Amerika'daki tüm bu büyük şehirleri araştırmaya ve bu faktörler için optimize etmeye başladım.

So they were more or less, um, you know, quality of life and cost of living, access to nature and hiking, um, you know, a good place to work remotely. |||||fewer|||||||||||proximity to||||trails and walking|||||||||from a distance ||||||||||||||||acesso||||caminhada||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||健行||||||||| ||||||||||||||||Zugang zur Natur||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||escursionismo|||||||||da remoto ||||||||||||||||||||المشي في الطبيعة||||||||| لقد كانوا بشكل أو بآخر، كما تعلمون، نوعية الحياة وتكلفة المعيشة، والوصول إلى الطبيعة والمشي لمسافات طويلة، كما تعلمون، مكانًا جيدًا للعمل عن بعد. Si trattava più o meno di: qualità della vita e costo della vita, accesso alla natura e alle escursioni, un buon posto dove lavorare a distanza. Так что они были более или менее, ну, вы знаете, качество жизни и стоимость жизни, доступ к природе и пешие прогулки, ну, знаете, хорошее место для удаленной работы. 所以他们或多或少，嗯，你知道，生活质量和生活成本，接触大自然和徒步旅行，嗯，你知道，远程工作的好地方。所以他們或多或少，嗯，你知道，生活品質和生活成本，接觸大自然和徒步旅行，嗯，你知道，遠距工作的好地方。 So, you know, like easy internet access and stuff like that. ||||||上網|||| ||||||||des choses|| لذا، كما تعلمون، مثل الوصول السهل إلى الإنترنت وأشياء من هذا القبيل. Um, and relative safety too. |||göreceli güvenlik| ||relative Sicherheit|relative Sicherheit| ||comparative|| |||segurança| أم، والسلامة النسبية أيضا. Um, cause I was, you know, uh, 23 and going to move to South America by myself. لأنني كنت، كما تعلم، أه، 23 عامًا وسأنتقل إلى أمريكا الجنوبية بنفسي.

So, you know, mom wants to make sure this... إذن، كما تعلمين، أمي تريد التأكد من هذا... Entonces, ya sabes, mamá quiere asegurarse de que esto...

Elle: oh, I bet. |||wette |||أراهن |||scommetto |||aposto |||I agree Elle: Oh, apuesto. Eminim.

Shelby: ... it's well researched. |||gut erforscht |||studied thoroughly |||bem pesquisado شيلبي: ... لقد تم بحثه جيدًا. Shelby: ... está bien investigado. Шелби: ... это хорошо изучено. Shelby: ... iyi araştırılmış. It's going to be safe. سوف تكون آمنة. Va a ser seguro. So anyway, um, Quito, Ecuador, the capital of Ecuador, um, came out mostly on top and pretty much all of those aspects. |||Quito, Ecuador|||||Ecuador||||||||||||| |||Quito|||||||||||||bastante||||| |||基多|||||||||||||||||| |||Quito|||Hauptstadt||||||||||||||| |||基多|||||||||||||||||| |||Quito, Ecuador|||||||||||||||||| على أي حال، كيتو، الإكوادور، عاصمة الإكوادور، جاءت في الغالب في المقدمة وفي كل هذه الجوانب تقريبًا. De qualquer forma, Quito, Equador, a capital do Equador, ficou em primeiro lugar em quase todos os aspectos. So I decided to move to Quito, which it didn't turn out to be as safe as I thought it was going to be. ||||||Quito||||||||||||||||| |||||||which||did not|||||||||||||| لذلك قررت الانتقال إلى كيتو، حيث لم تكن آمنة كما كنت أعتقد أنها ستكون. Así que decidí mudarme a Quito, que no resultó ser tan seguro como pensé que iba a ser. Così ho deciso di trasferirmi a Quito, che non si è rivelata sicura come pensavo. Поэтому я решил переехать в Кито, который оказался не таким уж безопасным, как я думал. 因此，我决定搬到基多，但事实证明它并不像我想象的那么安全。

But I had a really great community. ||||||社群 ولكن كان لدي مجتمع عظيم حقا. Pero yo tenía una gran comunidad. Um, I joined like an expats in Quito Facebook group, which was very active, very well, you know, uh, moderated, I would say. |||||expatriés||||||||||||||modéré||| |||||foreign residents group|||Facebook group|||||||||||well-managed||| |||||expatriados||||||||||||||moderado||| |||||外籍人士||||||||||||||||| |||||Expats||Quito|Facebook-Gruppe|||||||||||gut moderiert||| |||||외국인||||||||||||||관리되는||| ||||||||||||||||sai|||||| |||||expatov||||||||||||||moderované||| |||||外籍人士||||||||||||||管理得很好||| |||||外国人コミュニティ||||||||||||||管理されている||| ||joined = joined|||expats||||||||||||||||| لقد انضممت مثل المغتربين إلى مجموعة كيتو على الفيسبوك، والتي كانت نشطة جدًا، بشكل جيد جدًا، كما تعلمون، أه، خاضعة للإشراف، أود أن أقول. Ich bin einer Facebook-Gruppe für Ex-Pats in Quito beigetreten, die sehr aktiv war und sehr gut moderiert wurde, würde ich sagen. Um, me uní como un expatriados en el grupo de Facebook de Quito, que era muy activo, muy bien, ya sabes, eh, moderado, diría. Mi sono iscritta a un gruppo Facebook di espatriati a Quito, che era molto attivo, molto ben moderato, direi. Um, and you know, there was a uh, I got a lot of great, um, resources and advice and insights, um, about like what to do and which areas to avoid and stuff like that. |||||||||||||||||||見解||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||Einblicke||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||guidance||valuable understandings||||||||which areas||||as well as||| |||||||||||||||||||percepções||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||perspectivas valiosas||||||||||||||| حسنًا، كما تعلمون، كان هناك، حصلت على الكثير من الموارد والنصائح والرؤى الرائعة، حول ما يجب فعله والمجالات التي يجب تجنبها وأشياء من هذا القبيل. Um, y ya sabes, hubo un uh, obtuve muchos excelentes, um, recursos y consejos e ideas, um, sobre qué hacer y qué áreas evitar y cosas así. E sai, ho ricevuto un sacco di risorse, di consigli e di intuizioni su cosa fare, quali aree evitare e cose del genere.

So, you know, I was fine the whole time that I was there, but, um, it was not the best quality of life, only due to the higher crime rate. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||معدل ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||犯罪|犯罪率 ||||||||||||||||||||||||nur||||Kriminalitätsrate| ||||||||||||||||||||||||because of||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||devido||||| لذا، كما تعلم، كنت بخير طوال الوقت الذي كنت فيه هناك، ولكن، لم تكن نوعية الحياة أفضل، فقط بسبب ارتفاع معدل الجريمة. Así que, ya sabes, estuve bien todo el tiempo que estuve allí, pero, no era la mejor calidad de vida, sólo debido al mayor índice de criminalidad. Por isso, estive bem durante todo o tempo que lá estive, mas não era a melhor qualidade de vida, apenas devido à maior taxa de criminalidade. Итак, вы знаете, я был в порядке все время, что я был там, но это было не лучшее качество жизни, только из-за более высокого уровня преступности. Um, and so like, it was not advisable to basically walk on the street after sunset and the sun sets at 6:00 PM every day in Ecuador, because it's on the equator. |||||||recommandé||||||||||||||||||||||| |||like||||recommended against||||||||dusk||||goes down|around 6:00 PM||||||||||middle of Earth |||||||aconselhável||||||||||||||PM|||||||||equador ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||赤道 |||||||ratsam||||||||Sonnenuntergang||||||1800 Uhr|||||||||Äquator ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||적도 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||equatore |||||||odporúčané|||||||||||||||||||||||ekvátor |||||||不明智|||||||||||||||||||||||赤道 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||خط الاستواء ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||赤道 |||||||aconsejable||||||||||||||||||||||| أم، وما إلى ذلك، لم يكن من المستحسن أساسًا المشي في الشارع بعد غروب الشمس وغروب الشمس في الساعة 6:00 مساءً كل يوم في الإكوادور، لأنها تقع على خط الاستواء. Non era consigliabile camminare per strada dopo il tramonto e in Ecuador il sole tramonta alle 18:00 di ogni giorno, perché si trova sull'equatore. Ekvator'da güneş her gün saat 6:00'da battığı için gün batımından sonra sokakta yürümek pek tavsiye edilmiyordu. That's where it gets its name, actually, fun fact. ومن هنا حصلت على اسمها، في الواقع، حقيقة ممتعة. È da qui che prende il nome, in realtà, un fatto divertente. É daí que vem o seu nome, na verdade, um facto engraçado. Adını da buradan alıyor aslında, eğlenceli bir gerçek. 事实上，这就是它名字的由来，有趣的事实。

So, yeah, but aside from that, like, it was absolutely there and all of the other areas, I mean, Quito is situated between, um, two giant rows of, um, just staggering mountains. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||stupéfiantes| |||except for||||||||||||||||||located|||||lines of mountains||||awe-inspiring|staggering mountains |||||||||||||||||||||situada||||gigantescas|fileiras||||impressionantes| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||驚人的| |||abgesehen davon||||||||||||||||||gelegen||||riesigen|Reihen||||atemberaubend| |||그렇다면, 네, 하지만 그걸 제쳐두고||||||||||||||||||위치해 있다||||거대한|||||놀라운| |||||||||||||||||||||位于|||||山脉行||||令人震惊的| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||مذهلة| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||圧倒的な| |||a parte|||||||||||||||||||||||||||imponentes| لذا، نعم، ولكن بصرف النظر عن ذلك، كان هناك تمامًا وجميع المناطق الأخرى، أعني أن كيتو تقع بين صفين عملاقين من الجبال المذهلة. Así que, sí, pero aparte de eso, como, era absolutamente allí y todas las otras áreas, quiero decir, Quito está situado entre, um, dos filas gigantes de, um, sólo asombroso montañas. Quindi, sì, ma a parte questo, era assolutamente lì e tutte le altre aree, voglio dire, Quito è situata tra, um, due file giganti di, um, montagne sbalorditive. Por isso, sim, mas, para além disso, estava absolutamente lá e todas as outras áreas, quero dizer, Quito está situada entre, hum, duas filas gigantes de, hum, apenas montanhas impressionantes. Так что, да, но помимо этого, вроде бы, это было абсолютно там, и все другие области, я имею в виду, Кито расположен между, мм, двумя гигантскими рядами, мм, просто потрясающими горами. Yani, evet, ama bunun dışında, kesinlikle oradaydı ve diğer tüm alanlar, yani, Quito, iki dev sıra, um, sadece şaşırtıcı dağlar arasında yer alıyor. 所以，是的，但除此之外，基多绝对是个好地方，我是说，基多坐落在两排巨大的山脉之间。 So it's only like a couple of kilometers wide and 28 kilometers long. |||||||Kilometer|||| |||||a few|||||| |||||||quilômetros|largo||quilômetros|long لذا، يبلغ عرضها بضعة كيلومترات فقط وطولها 28 كيلومترًا. Quindi è largo solo un paio di chilometri e lungo 28 chilometri. 因此，它只有几公里宽，28 公里长。 So no matter where you are in the city, you look to your left, look to your right لذا، بغض النظر عن مكان وجودك في المدينة، انظر إلى يسارك، وانظر إلى يمينك

and you're seeing these gorgeous lush green mountains. ||||beautiful|verdant, thriving, rich|| ||||lindas|verdes exuberantes|| |||||茂盛的|| ||||wunderschönen|üppig grün|| ||||아름다운|무성한|| |||||husté|| ||||美丽的|郁郁葱葱|| ||||美しい|青々とした|| ||||gorgeous|frondosas verdes|| وأنتم ترون هذه الجبال الخضراء الرائعة. Um, and you know, at night they're just all lit up with all the different, um, lights from restaurants and houses on them. |||||||||beleuchtet|||||||Lichtern||||Häuser|| |||||||||켜져||||||||||||| |||||||||照らされている||||||||||||| |||||||||iluminadas|||||||luzes|||||| |||||||||illuminated||||||||||||| كما تعلمون، في الليل يتم إضاءتهم جميعًا بجميع أضواء المطاعم والمنازل المختلفة. Um, y ya sabes, por la noche están todos iluminados con todos los diferentes, um, luces de restaurantes y casas en ellos. Di notte sono illuminati da tutte le luci dei ristoranti e delle case. 음, 그리고 저녁에 모든 식당과 집에서 나오는 다양한 불빛으로 모두 환하게 빛난다는 걸 알잖아요. So it's truly beautiful and amazing hiking of course. ||||||caminhada|| لذلك، إنها رحلة جميلة ومذهلة حقًا بالطبع. Así que es una caminata verdaderamente hermosa y sorprendente, por supuesto. Quindi è veramente bello e sorprendente fare escursioni, naturalmente. 그래서 정말 아름답고 놀라운 하이킹입니다, 물론.

Elle: Oh, nice. 엘: 오, 멋지다. Oh yeah. I guess so with those mountains and how, how long were you in Ecuador? |||||||||quanto tempo|||| أعتقد ذلك مع تلك الجبال، وكم من الوقت قضيته في الإكوادور؟ 你在厄瓜多尔待了多久？

In Quito, right? |基多|

Shelby: Yeah, I was only there for three months. شيلبي: نعم، كنت هناك لمدة ثلاثة أشهر فقط.

Elle: Oh, okay. Wow. And that was, you left because of the safety issue mainly. ||||||||||hauptsächlich ||||||||||principalmente وكان ذلك أنك غادرت بسبب مشكلة السلامة بشكل أساسي. 你离开主要是因为安全问题。 Um, would you say? أم، هل تقول؟

Shelby: Well, the that was Shelby: Well, that was|||| شيلبي: حسنًا، كان هذا Shelby: Bueno, el que era

why I was open to pivot and go someplace else afterwards. ||||||||quelque part|| |||||change direction|||another location||later on |||||mudar|||outro lugar||depois |||||轉變||||| |||||umschwenken|||irgendwo||danach |||||전환||||| |||||cambiare direzione||||| |||||zmeniť||||| |||||转变方向|||||之后 |||||تحول||||| |||||方向転換|||どこか別の|| لماذا كنت منفتحًا على المحور والذهاب إلى مكان آخر بعد ذلك. por qué estaba abierto a pivotar e ir a otro lugar después. perché ero disposto a cambiare idea e ad andare da un'altra parte in seguito. porque estava aberto a mudar de rumo e ir para outro sítio depois. поэтому я был открыт для того, чтобы потом развернуться и пойти в другое место. 为什么我愿意转而去其他地方。為什麼我願意轉向並隨後去其他地方。 I wasn't ready to go home. ||prepared||| لم أكن على استعداد للعودة إلى المنزل. No estaba preparada para volver a casa. Я не была готова идти домой. Um, but it was that an opportunity opened up at the company I was working at. أم، ولكن كانت تلك فرصة أتيحت لي في الشركة التي كنت أعمل فيها. Pero fue que se abrió una oportunidad en la empresa en la que trabajaba. Но в компании, в которой я работал, открылась возможность.

Um, which is a vacation rental management platform. |||||location de vacances|| |||||vacation property rental||platform ||||um|aluguel|| |||||租屋|| |||||Vermietungs-|Verwaltungs-|Plattform |||||租赁||平台 |||||إيجار|| |||||alquiler vacacional|| أم، وهي عبارة عن منصة لإدارة تأجير العطلات. Um, которая является платформой для управления арендой жилья на время отпуска. And, um, it's an international company. ||||international| وهي شركة دولية. Um, we have, or the company had a few offices in Chile, one in Santiago and then one at the coast at Valparaíso. ||||||||||||||Santiago||||||by the sea||Valparaíso, Chile ||||||||||||||Santiago||||||||Valparaíso ||||||||||||||圣地亚哥||||||||瓦尔帕莱索 |||||||||Büros|||||Santiago||||||an der Küste||Valparaíso ||||||||||||||圣地亚哥||||||海边||瓦尔帕莱索 ||||||||||||||||||||||バルパライソ ||||||||||||||||||||||Valparaíso أم، لدينا، أو كان لدى الشركة عدد قليل من المكاتب في تشيلي، واحد في سانتياغو ثم واحد على الساحل في فالبارايسو. And so, yeah, it was a great leadership opportunity opened up down in Santiago. |||||||||||||聖地牙哥 |||||||liderança|||||| |||||||leadership|||||| وهكذا، نعم، لقد كانت فرصة قيادية عظيمة متاحة في سانتياغو. Y entonces, sí, fue una gran oportunidad de liderazgo que se abrió en Santiago. Por isso, sim, foi uma grande oportunidade de liderança que se abriu em Santiago. Так что, да, в Сантьяго открылись прекрасные возможности для руководства. 因此，在圣地亚哥，这是一个很好的领导机会。 And so my manager reached out and said, Hey, are you like open to, ||||||||Hallo||||| ||||contattò||||||||| |||gerente|entrou em contato||||||||| لذا تواصل مديري معه وقال، مرحبًا، هل أنت منفتح على، Entonces, mi gerente se acercó y dijo: Oye, ¿estás abierto a, Мой менеджер протянул руку и сказал: "Эй, ты вроде открыт для?"

to going to Chile? للذهاب إلى تشيلي؟ to going to Chile? And I said, yeah, you know, sign me up for that. فقلت، نعم، كما تعلم، سجلني لذلك. E io ho detto: "Sì, sai, iscrivimi".

Elle: Great. And did you know Spanish then before, because I know it's a big part of high school in the States, generally speaking, Spanish class. وهل كنت تعرف اللغة الإسبانية من قبل، لأنني أعلم أنها جزء كبير من المدرسة الثانوية في الولايات المتحدة، بشكل عام، حصة اللغة الإسبانية. E conoscevi già lo spagnolo, perché so che negli Stati Uniti è una parte importante della scuola superiore, in generale, il corso di spagnolo. И знали ли вы испанский язык до этого, потому что я знаю, что это большая часть средней школы в Штатах, вообще говоря, уроки испанского. Did you know any Spanish before you moved? هل كنت تعرف أي لغة إسبانية قبل أن تنتقل؟ ¿Sabía algo de español antes de mudarse?

Shelby: Yeah. شيلبي: نعم. Um, so I took Spanish in high school and I was actually lucky enough to start in eighth grade, but I was still in middle school and yeah, Spanish is definitely a, um, It's like the main language that people will learn. |||||||||||||||||八年级|八年级||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||achte|Klasse 8||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||principal||||| حسنًا، تعلمت اللغة الإسبانية في المدرسة الثانوية وكنت محظوظًا بما يكفي للبدء في الصف الثامن، لكنني كنت لا أزال في المدرسة الإعدادية ونعم، الإسبانية هي بالتأكيد، إنها مثل اللغة الرئيسية التي سيتعلمها الناس. Ho frequentato lo spagnolo al liceo e in realtà ho avuto la fortuna di iniziare in terza media, ma ero ancora alle medie e sì, lo spagnolo è sicuramente una... è la lingua principale che le persone imparano.

I would say, you know, learn in quotes because most people don't get the opportunity to really learn it for whatever reason. |||||||so-called learning|since||||||||||||| |||||||"aprender"|||||||||||||| |||||||引號|||||||||||||| |||||||Anführungszeichen|||||||||||||| |||||배우다||인용부호|||||||||||||| |||||||úvodzovkách|||||||||||||| |||||||引用|||||||||||||| أود أن أقول، كما تعلمون، التعلم بالاقتباسات لأن معظم الناس لا تتاح لهم الفرصة لتعلم ذلك حقًا لأي سبب من الأسباب. Yo diría, ya sabes, aprender entre comillas porque la mayoría de la gente no tiene la oportunidad de aprenderlo de verdad por la razón que sea. Direi di imparare tra virgolette, perché la maggior parte delle persone non ha l'opportunità di imparare davvero, per qualsiasi motivo. Я бы сказал: "Учитесь в кавычках", потому что большинство людей по каким-то причинам не имеют возможности по-настоящему научиться этому. Bilirsin, tırnak içinde öğren derdim çünkü çoğu insan her ne sebeple olursa olsun onu gerçekten öğrenme fırsatı bulamıyor. 我想說，你知道，在引號中學習，因為大多數人無論出於何種原因都沒有機會真正學習它。 Usually it's that, um, you know, I find that there are not the best like teachers, um, and like all around. عادةً ما يكون الأمر كذلك، كما تعلمون، أجد أنه لا يوجد أفضل من المعلمين مثلهم مثل كل من حولنا. Di solito è che, um, sai, trovo che non ci siano i migliori insegnanti, um, e tutto il resto. And of course students also find that it's challenging and because it's hard, they, um, they don't like it and they, they tend to give up. ||||||||herausfordernd||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||يميلون إلى||| وبالطبع يجد الطلاب أيضًا أن الأمر صعب، ولأنه صعب، فإنهم لا يحبونه ويميلون إلى الاستسلام. И, конечно же, студенты также считают, что это сложно, и, поскольку это сложно, им это не нравится, и они склонны сдаваться.

So I just was really into it. لذلك كنت حقا في ذلك. Por isso, estava mesmo a gostar. And I was always really fortunate to get super solid teachers, um, for all five years. |||||幸运||||很棒|||||| ||||||||super|sehr gute|||||| |||||lucky|||very|reliable|||||| |||||||||훌륭한|||||| |||||afortunado|||||||||| وكنت دائمًا محظوظًا بالحصول على معلمين أقوياء طوال السنوات الخمس. E sono sempre stata molto fortunata ad avere insegnanti super solidi, um, per tutti e cinque gli anni. So from eighth grade through my senior year in high school, like. ||八年级||||高年级||||| ||||||Abschlussjahr||||| ||8th grade||||final year student||||| ||8年生||||||||| ||||||último (ano)||||| لذا، بدءًا من الصف الثامن وحتى سنتي الأخيرة في المدرسة الثانوية. Studied it really enjoyed it. لقد درستها واستمتعت بها حقًا. Um, and I had done an immersion program in Costa Rica for a few weeks, one summer, and that really helped as well. ||||||intensive language course|immersion course||Costa Rica|Costa Rica|||||||||||| |||||||||Costa|Costa Rica|||||||||||| ||||||沉浸式|||||||||||||||| ||||||Immersionsprogramm|||Rica|Rica|||||||||||| ||||||어학연수|||||||||||||||| ||||||ponor|||||||||||||||| ||||||غمر|||||||||||||||| ||||||没入プログラム|||||||||||||||| ||||||||||Costa Rica|||||||||||| لقد قمت بتنفيذ برنامج انغماس في كوستاريكا لبضعة أسابيع، في أحد أيام الصيف، وقد ساعدني ذلك أيضًا. Um, y había hecho un programa de inmersión en Costa Rica durante unas semanas, un verano, y eso también me ayudó mucho.

So I had gained like, um, conversational fluency by the time I graduated high school. |||||||会话流利度||||||| |||erworben|||Gesprächs-||||||ich die Schule abschloss|| ||||||speaking ease||||||finished high school|| ||||||||||||terminei|| لقد اكتسبت طلاقة في المحادثة عندما تخرجت من المدرسة الثانوية. Так что к окончанию школы я уже свободно владел разговорным языком. Bu yüzden liseden mezun olduğumda akıcı bir şekilde konuşmaya başlamıştım.

Elle: Oh, that's great. ايلي: اوه هذا عظيم. And Kind of unusual. |||不寻常 |||ungewöhnlich ونوع غير عادي. Ve biraz sıradışı. I feel like... Did any of your friends do the same? Where you in...was everyone speaking Spanish or French or whatever? ||||||||||ou autre chose أين كنت...هل كان الجميع يتحدثون الإسبانية أو الفرنسية أو أي شيء آخر؟

Shelby: No, no. شيلبي: لا لا.

I don't أنا لا

think any of my friends that I was friends with outside of school, أعتقد أن أيًا من أصدقائي الذين كنت صديقًا لهم خارج المدرسة، creo que cualquiera de mis amigos con los que era amigo fuera de la escuela,

um, Like developed fluency or anything close to it. أم، مثل الطلاقة المتقدمة أو أي شيء قريب منها. um, como fluidez desarrollada o algo cercano a ella. I was actually always helping them with their Spanish homework, but friends. |||||||||Spanish assignment|| ||||도와주고 있던||||||| |||||||||宿題|| |||||||||dever de casa|| كنت في الواقع أساعدهم دائمًا في واجباتهم المدرسية باللغة الإسبانية، ولكنهم أصدقاء. En realidad siempre les ayudaba con los deberes de español, pero amigos. In realtà li aiutavo sempre a fare i compiti di spagnolo, ma con gli amici. 나는 사실 항상 그들의 스페인어 숙제를 도와주고 있었지만, 친구들. I, I, Oh yeah. أنا، أنا، أوه نعم. 나는, 나는, 오 그래. But you know, I, I was charging of course. ||||||involved||naturally ||||||cobrando|| ||||||laden|| ||||나|이었어요|요금 청구하고|| ||||||充电|| ||||||شحن|| ||||||充電していた|| ||||||stavo caricando|| لكن كما تعلمون، كنت أقوم بالشحن بالطبع. Ma sapete, io... io mi facevo pagare, naturalmente. 하지만 알다시피, 나는, 나는 물론 요금을 받았어. Mas, sabe, eu estava a cobrar, claro. Ama biliyorsun, ben, ben şarj ediyordum tabii ki.

Elle: Good. 엘: 좋다.

Shelby: Um, but no I had, um, friends that I met through Spanish class and of course, so like there was the group of us that were prevailing seen as nerds |||||||||||||||||||||||||||prévalant|||intellos |||||||||||||||||||||||||||seen as dominant|socially regarded||socially awkward intellectuals |||||||||||||||||||||||||||prevalentes|||nerds |||||||||||||||||||||||||||普遍被|||書呆子 Shelby|||||||||||||||||||||||||||vorherrschend|||Nerds |||||||||||||||||||||||||||항상||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||prevádzajúce|||nerdi |||||||||||||||||||||||||||普遍被认为|||书呆子 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||سائدين|||المتفوقون |||||||||||||||||||||||||||主流の|||オタクたち |||||||||||||||||||||||||||predominantemente considerados nerds|||frikis شيلبي: أم، ولكن لا، كان لدي أصدقاء التقيت بهم من خلال فصل اللغة الإسبانية وبالطبع، كانت هناك مجموعة منا التي كانت سائدة والتي يُنظر إليها على أنها مهووسين Shelby : Euh, mais non, j'avais, euh, des amis que j'ai rencontrés pendant les cours d'espagnol et bien sûr, donc il y avait le groupe d'entre nous qui prévalait, vu comme des nerds Shelby: Ehm, ma no, avevo... amici che ho conosciuto durante le lezioni di spagnolo e, ovviamente, c'era il gruppo di noi che veniva visto prevalentemente come un gruppo di nerd. 셸비: 음, 하지만 나는, 음, 스페인어 수업을 통해 만난 친구들이 있었고, 물론 우리가 nerd로 여겨지는 그룹이 있었어. Shelby: Hum, mas não, eu tinha, hum, amigos que conheci nas aulas de espanhol e, claro, havia o grupo de nós que era visto como nerds Shelby: Ama hayır, İspanyolca dersi sayesinde tanıştığım arkadaşlarım vardı ve tabii ki inek olarak görülen bir grubumuz vardı.

I'm sure that was, that was the only thing I was good at though. |||||||||||||however أنا متأكد من أن هذا كان الشيء الوحيد الذي كنت جيدًا فيه بالرغم من ذلك. Ne sono certo, era l'unica cosa che sapevo fare bene. Tenho a certeza que sim, era a única coisa em que eu era bom. Я уверен, что это было единственное, в чем я был хорош. Eminim öyleydi, iyi olduğum tek şey buydu. I wasn't like good at other classes. لم أكن جيدًا في الفصول الأخرى. Non ero così bravo nelle altre classi. Я не был так хорош в других классах. Diğer derslerde iyi değildim.

Elle: I'm sure that's not true, but that's a very cool thing to be good at. Elle: أنا متأكدة أن هذا ليس صحيحًا، لكن هذا شيء رائع جدًا أن تكون جيدًا فيه. Elle: Sono sicura che non è vero, ma è una cosa molto bella da fare. It's very cool. |非常| إنه جيد جدا. It's amazing actually. Yeah.

I don't know anyone who just from taking classes in high school came out conversational. ||||||||||||||会话流利 ||||||||||||||konversationsfähig ||||||||||||||conversational لا أعرف أي شخص خرج من المحادثة بعد حضوره دروسًا في المدرسة الثانوية. Я не знаю никого, кто только после занятий в старшей школе выходил из разговора. Like we study Welsh at school where I'm from in Wales and French. ||||||||||威尔士|| |||gallois||||||||| مثلما ندرس اللغة الويلزية في المدرسة التي أنحدر منها في ويلز والفرنسية. Ad esempio, a scuola studiamo il gallese, da dove vengo io, e il francese.

No one I know, came out, speaking Welsh or French, so... |||||出來||||| لم يخرج أحد أعرفه ويتحدث الويلزية أو الفرنسية، لذا... 我認識的沒有人出來講威爾士語或法語，所以...

Shelby: oh, really? 謝爾比：哦，真的嗎？

And how, how well, thank you. وكيف، وكيف، وشكرا لكم. 那么，謝謝你，我很好。 Um, I mean, it was like, I had great teachers. أم، أعني، كان الأمر كما لو كان لدي مدرسين رائعين. I don't think I hadn't had those teachers. لا أعتقد أنه لم يكن لدي هؤلاء المعلمين. Non credo di non aver avuto quegli insegnanti. I would have, um, succeeded. ||||erfolgreich gewesen ||||teria conseguido ||||habría tenido éxito كنت سأنجح. Avrei... avuto successo. Um, but how many years of Welsh and French do you take in school in Wales? ||||||um, mas quantos anos de galês e francês você estuda na escola no País de Gales?||||||||| أم، ولكن كم عدد سنوات الدراسة الويلزية والفرنسية في المدرسة في ويلز؟ Ma quanti anni di gallese e francese si fanno a scuola in Galles?

Elle: Welsh, I mean, what taught from primary school or elementary school, but just bits and pieces, you know, nothing really, um, intense. |||||||小学一年级|||小学||||||||||||深入 |||||||Grundschule|||Grundschule||||ein paar||Stücke||||||intensiv |||||||early education level|||grade school||||fragments|||||||| ||||||||||escola primária||||pedacinhos|||||||| |||||||小學一年級||||||||||||||| Elle: ويلز، أعني، ما تم تدريسه من المدرسة الابتدائية أو المدرسة الابتدائية، ولكن فقط أجزاء وأجزاء، كما تعلمون، لا شيء مكثف حقًا. Elle: Валлийский, я имею в виду то, чему учили в начальной или начальной школе, но просто кусочки и кусочки, вы знаете, ничего особенного, ммм.

And then in high school, uh, from the beginning of high school, which is age 11 in the UK. وبعدها في الثانوية أه من بداية المرحلة الثانوية وهو سن 11 سنة في المملكة المتحدة. Um, but uh, yeah, some teachers not very inspiring or just good teachers in general. ||||||||inspirierend|||||| ||||||||motivating|||||| ||||||||inspiradores|||||| أم، ولكن اه، نعم، بعض المعلمين ليسوا ملهمين جدًا أو مجرد مدرسين جيدين بشكل عام. I definitely didn't have good Welsh teachers. بالتأكيد لم يكن لدي مدرسين جيدين في ويلز. It was a bit of a mess, honestly, our Welsh education in my high school. ||||||désordre|||||||| |||||||ehrlich gesagt||||||| |||||||||Welsh education|system|||| ||||||uma confusão|honestamente||||||| ||||||lío|||||||| بصراحة، لقد كان تعليمنا الويلزي في مدرستي الثانوية في حالة من الفوضى بعض الشيء. Onestamente, la nostra educazione al gallese nel mio liceo era un po' un casino. And French, just a couple of years and I hated it. والفرنسية، بضع سنوات فقط وكرهتها.

And now I'm learning French because I'm doing it in a way that I enjoy, not those teachers weren't, weren't very nice. والآن أنا أتعلم اللغة الفرنسية لأنني أفعل ذلك بطريقة أستمتع بها، ولم يكن هؤلاء المعلمون كذلك، ولم يكونوا لطيفين جدًا. So, you're so right. I mean, it really, really does. Voglio dire, lo fa davvero, davvero tanto. I mean, you can have a passion for something, of course, but it really helps when you have an inspiring and motivating and friendly teacher, so... ||||||热情|||||||||||||||激励人心的|||| ||||||Leidenschaft|||||||||||||||motivierenden|||| |||||||||||||||||||||encouraging|||| |||||||||||||||||||||motivador|||| أعني، من الممكن أن يكون لديك شغف بشيء ما، بالطبع، ولكن من المفيد حقًا أن يكون لديك معلم ملهم ومحفز وودود، لذا... 我的意思是，当然，你可以对某件事充满热情，但当你有一位鼓舞人心、激励人心且友善的老师时，这确实很有帮助，所以......

Shelby: Absolutely. Shelby| شيلبي: بالتأكيد. 谢尔比：当然。

Elle: For sure. 艾丽：当然。 Um, so then three months in Ecuador, then you moved to Santiago in Chile. |||||||||||Santiago|| أم، بعد ذلك ثلاثة أشهر في الإكوادور، ثم انتقلت إلى سانتياغو في تشيلي. 嗯，然后在厄瓜多尔呆了三个月，然后搬到了智利的圣地亚哥。 Yeah. 是的。

And so tell me about that. 请告诉我这一点。 Chile, Chile, Chile? 智利，智利，智利？

Shelby: Yeah Chile. 谢尔比：是的，智利。 Yeah.

Um, there's a, there'd be a lot, um, to cover like my experience there was really, um, you know, it was overshadowed by the work that I was doing there because it was a really big job. |||||||||||||||||||||éclipsé par||||||||||||||| |||there would be||||||discuss||||||||||||dominated by||||||||||||||| |||haveria||||||||||||||||||ofuscada||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||被掩盖||||||||||||||| |||es würde||||||abdecken||||||||||||überlagert||||||||||||||| |||있을||||||||||||||||||그늘에 가려졌다||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||zatienená||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||被掩盖||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||طغى على||||||||||||||| |||habría||||||||||||||||||eclipsado||||||||||||||| أم، سيكون هناك الكثير، أم، لتغطيته مثل تجربتي هناك، كما تعلمون، لقد طغى عليها العمل الذي كنت أقوم به هناك لأنه كان عملاً كبيرًا حقًا. Ci sarebbe molto da dire, come la mia esperienza lì è stata davvero... sai, è stata messa in ombra dal lavoro che stavo facendo lì, perché era un lavoro davvero grande. 嗯，有很多，嗯，要涵盖，就像我的经历一样，嗯，你知道，它被我在那里所做的工作所掩盖，因为这是一项非常大的工作。

Um, And I mean, it was my first time working in leadership and like a big semi-big company. |||||||||||leadership||||||| ||||||||||||||||halb-große|| ||||||||||||||||semi|| ||||||||||||||||uma|| أعني أنها كانت المرة الأولى التي أعمل فيها في مجال القيادة مثل شركة كبيرة وشبه كبيرة. Era la prima volta che lavoravo come dirigente in un'azienda semi-grande. Гм, я имею в виду, это был мой первый раз, когда я работал в руководстве и как большая, полу-большая компания. 嗯，我的意思是，这是我第一次在领导层工作，就像一家半大公司一样。 And, um, it was, it was a mess, honestly, in the beginning. |||||||一团糟|||| |||||||uma confusão|||| |||||||desastre|||| لقد كانت فوضى، بصراحة، في البداية. E... è stato... è stato un casino, onestamente, all'inizio. И, гм, это был беспорядок, честно говоря, в начале. 而且，嗯，老实说，一开始真是一团糟。 Um, I, because it was exacerbated by the fact that I had just moved to a new country too. |||||made worse by||||||||||||| |||||agravada||||||||||||| |||||加劇||||||||||||| |||||verschärft||||||||||||| |||||zhorené||||||||||||| |||||加剧||||||||||||| |||||تفاقم||||||||||||| |||||agravado por||||||||||||| أم، أنا، لأن الأمر تفاقم بسبب حقيقة أنني انتقلت للتو إلى بلد جديد أيضًا. Io, perché la situazione era aggravata dal fatto che anch'io mi ero appena trasferita in un nuovo Paese. 嗯，我，因为我也刚刚搬到一个新的国家，这一事实加剧了这种情况。 So like moving to a new country by yourself is a pretty challenging endeavor and then, you know, taking on |||||||||||||effort||||||sur ||||||||||||difficult|challenging task|||||taking| |||||||||||bastante||empreendimento|||||| |||||||||||||努力|||||| |||||||||||||Unterfangen|||||| |||||||||||||노력|||||| |||||||||||||impresa impegnativa|||||| |||||||||||||努力|||||| |||||||||||||جهد|||||| |||||||||||abbastanza|sfidante|esfuerzo desafiante|||||| لذا، فإن الانتقال إلى بلد جديد بمفردك هو مسعى مليء بالتحديات، ثم تتولى الأمر بعد ذلك Trasferirsi in un nuovo paese da soli è un'impresa piuttosto impegnativa e poi, sai, assumere un incarico di Vì vậy, giống như việc tự mình chuyển đến một đất nước mới là một nỗ lực khá khó khăn và sau đó, bạn biết đấy, hãy đảm nhận 因此，就像独自搬到一个新的国家是一项相当具有挑战性的努力，然后，你知道，承担

um, a really autonomous leadership role, um, following previously kind of negligent leadership. |||Self-governing|Independent leadership role|||succeeding|earlier|||Careless or inattentive| |||autônomo|liderança|papel||||||negligente|liderança |||自主的||||||||疏忽的| |||autonom||Führungsrolle||nachfolgend||||nachlässig| |||자율적인||||||||태만한| |||||||||||nedbanlivého| |||自主的||角色|||之前的|||疏忽的| |||مستقل|||||||||القيادة |||||||||||怠慢な| |||||||||||Negligente| أم، دور قيادي مستقل حقًا، أم، بعد نوع سابق من القيادة المهملة. un ruolo di leadership davvero autonomo, dopo una precedente leadership negligente. эм, действительно самостоятельная роль лидера, эм, после предыдущего небрежного руководства. ừm, một vai trò lãnh đạo thực sự tự chủ, ừm, tiếp nối kiểu lãnh đạo cẩu thả trước đây. 嗯，一个真正自主的领导角色，嗯，继以前的疏忽领导之后。 So I was like cleaning up a really big mess. ||||tidying up||||| لذلك كنت أرغب في تنظيف فوضى كبيرة حقًا. Ich habe also ein wirklich großes Durcheinander aufgeräumt. 所以我就像清理一个非常大的烂摊子。 Um, and on top of that, um, you know, while I had gained that conversational fluency in high school that had been, I don't know, um, six years prior and, um, it was Mexican Spanish and, |||||||||||||||conversational proficiency|||||||||||||six years earlier||||||español mexicano| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||seis||anterior|||||mexicano|| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||mexikanisches Spanisch|| ||||그것에 대해||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||pred||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||六年前||||||| |||||ذلك|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| علاوة على ذلك، كما تعلمون، بينما كنت قد اكتسبت طلاقة المحادثة في المدرسة الثانوية، والتي كانت، لا أعلم، قبل ست سنوات، وكانت اللغة الإسبانية المكسيكية و، Inoltre, mentre avevo acquisito una certa padronanza della lingua al liceo, non so, sei anni prima, e si trattava di spagnolo messicano, 嗯，最重要的是，嗯，你知道，虽然我在高中时就已经掌握了流利的会话，但我不知道，嗯，六年前，而且，嗯，是墨西哥西班牙语，而且，

like, yes, it's the same language spoken throughout most of South America. |||||||across all of|||| |||||||por toda|||| مثل، نعم، إنها نفس اللغة المستخدمة في معظم أنحاء أمريكا الجنوبية. 就像，是的，这是南美洲大部分地区使用的同一种语言。 Um, you know, with the exception of, um, Brazil and, um, Guyana and some of those other countries on the other side of Brazil. |||||apart from|||South American country|||South American country|||||||||||| |||||||||||Guiana|||||||||||| |||||||||||圭亚那|||||||||||| |||||Ausnahme|||Brasilien|||Guyana|||||||||||| |||||제외|||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||圭亚那|||||||||||| |||||||||||ガイアナ|||||||||||| |||||||||||Guyana|||||||||||| كما تعلمون، باستثناء البرازيل وغويانا وبعض تلك البلدان الأخرى على الجانب الآخر من البرازيل. U weet wel, met uitzondering van, um, Brazilië en, um, Guyana en enkele van die andere landen aan de andere kant van Brazilië. Ừm, bạn biết đấy, ngoại trừ, ừm, Brazil và, ừm, Guyana và một số quốc gia khác ở phía bên kia Brazil. 嗯，你知道，除了巴西和圭亚那以及巴西另一边的一些其他国家。 Um, but for the most part, I mean, it's, it's Castilian Spanish. ||||||||||Standard Spanish| ||||||||||castelhano| ||||||||||卡斯蒂利亚语| ||||||||||kastilisch| ||||||||||卡斯蒂利亚语| ||||||||||カスティーリャ語| ||||||||||español castellano| أم، ولكن بالنسبة للجزء الأكبر، أعني أنها الإسبانية القشتالية. Гм, но по большей части, я имею в виду, это кастильский испанский. However, in Chile, I mean, anyone who has spoken to a Chilean and is already Spanish speaking, knows |||||||||||Chilenen|||||| That said|||||||||||Chilean person|||||| |||||||||||chileno|||||| ومع ذلك، في تشيلي، أعني أن أي شخص تحدث إلى تشيلي ويتحدث الإسبانية بالفعل، يعرف ذلك Sin embargo, en Chile, quiero decir, cualquiera que haya hablado con un chileno y ya sea hispanohablante, sabe Tuttavia, in Cile, voglio dire, chiunque abbia parlato con un cileno e sia già di lingua spagnola, sa che

it's a very distinct dialect and there are different dialects within Chile too, but, um, they speak incredibly fast. |||||||||||||||||incroyablement| it is|||easily recognizable|Chilean Spanish|||||||||||||extremely| |||muito distinto|dialeto distinto|||||||||||||incrivelmente| |||獨特的|方言|||||||||||||| |||deutlich|Dialekt|||||Dialekte||||||||unglaublich|schnell ||||방언|||||||||||||| |||výrazný||||||||||||||| |||独特的|方言|||||方言||||||||非常| إنها لهجة مميزة جدًا وهناك لهجات مختلفة داخل تشيلي أيضًا، لكنهم يتحدثون بسرعة لا تصدق. è un dialetto molto distinto e ci sono diversi dialetti anche all'interno del Cile, ma parlano in modo incredibilmente veloce. Um, they, they, um, like cut syllables out of words. |||||remove|Shorten words||| |||||cortam|sílabas||| ||||||音節||| ||||||Silben||| ||||||음절|||단어 ||||||sílabas||| أم، هم، هم، أم، مثل المقاطع المقطوعة من الكلمات. Um, ellos, ellos, um, como cortar sílabas de las palabras. Um, they also aspirate their Ss. |||pronounce with breath||the letter S |||aspiram||eles |||送氣||S |||aspirieren||S-Laute |그들은||발음하다||S |||aspirujú|| |||送气||发音 |||息を出す|| |||aspiran||Eses أم، إنهم أيضًا يطمحون إلى Ss. Eh, ze aspireren ook hun S'en. Гм, они также забирают свои Ss. S'lerini de aspire ediyorlar. Ừm, họ cũng khao khát Ss của họ. So instead of saying "mas"' they're going to say "ma", and so you don't like hear that, that sound that you're used to hearing. ||||"more"|||||"more"|||||||||||you are|||perceiving sound ||||mas porém|||||mas (1)|||||||||||||| ||||mas||||||||||||||||||| ||||aber|||||ma(1)|||||||||||||| ||||mas(1)|||||妈|||||||||||||| ||||「マス」||||||||||||||||||| ||||más|||||"ma"|||||||||||||| فبدلاً من قول "mas" سيقولون "ma"، ولذا فأنت لا تحب سماع ذلك، ذلك الصوت الذي اعتدت سماعه.

And they also have like over a thousand words that are only used in Chile, but it's interesting cause this slang is just like pervasive, like everyone in every different, um, you know, um, social class and different generation are using these slang words and they're so common. ||||||||||||||||||||argot||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||fascinating|||||||widespread||||||||||||||age group||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||gíria||||pervasivo||||||||||||||geração||||gíria||||| ||||||||||||使用||||||||||||普遍的||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||Slang||||verbreitet||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||널리 퍼지는||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||rozšírený||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||普遍的||||||||||||||||||俚语|||||很常见 |||||أكثر من|||||||||||||||||فقط||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||omnipresente||||||||||||||||||||||| ولديهم أيضًا أكثر من ألف كلمة تستخدم فقط في تشيلي، ولكن من المثير للاهتمام أن هذه اللغة العامية منتشرة تمامًا، مثل الجميع في كل مكان، كما تعلمون، الطبقة الاجتماعية والأجيال المختلفة يستخدمون هذه الكلمات العامية وهم شائعون جدًا. Hanno anche più di mille parole che si usano solo in Cile, ma è interessante perché questo slang è così pervasivo che tutti, in ogni diversa classe sociale e generazione, usano queste parole gergali e sono così comuni. Và họ cũng có hơn một nghìn từ chỉ được sử dụng ở Chile, nhưng thật thú vị vì tiếng lóng này rất phổ biến, giống như mọi người ở mọi nơi khác nhau, ừm, bạn biết đấy, ừm, tầng lớp xã hội và thế hệ khác nhau đang sử dụng những từ lóng này và chúng rất phổ biến. Um, like the, the one that like, when I finally had that, like, Oh, we're not in Kansas anymore |||||||||||||||||堪萨斯| |||||||||||||||||Kansas|nicht mehr |||||||||||that place||||||Not in Kansas| ||||||||||||||||||plus jamais |||||||||||||||||Kansas| أم، مثل، تلك التي، عندما حصلت عليها أخيرًا، مثل، أوه، لم نعد في كانساس بعد الآن Quando finalmente ho capito che non siamo più in Kansas.

toto moment, um, was like a few weeks in. That specific|||||||| um|||||||| toto|||||||| Toto|||||||| toto|||||||| 托托|||||||| momento toto|||||||| كل هذه اللحظة، أم، كانت مثل بضعة أسابيع. Il momento del toto, ehm, è stato qualche settimana dopo. тото момент, эм, наступил через несколько недель. I had been looking for Mexican food because I, as an American, I eat a lot of Mexican food and I couldn't find any, and one day I was in a taxi or an Uber and the driver told me "Spanish", which I understood as "there's a lot of tacos in the street." ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Uber|||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||taxi or Uber|||ride-sharing service|||||||||||||||street food options||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Uber|||||||||||||||tacos||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||塔可||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Uber|||||||||||||||Tacos||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||tacos en la calle||| كنت أبحث عن الطعام المكسيكي لأنني، كأمريكي، آكل الكثير من الطعام المكسيكي ولم أتمكن من العثور على أي شيء، وفي أحد الأيام كنت في سيارة أجرة أو سيارة أوبر وأخبرني السائق "بالإسبانية"، والتي لقد فهمت أن "هناك الكثير من سندويشات التاكو في الشارع." Había estado buscando comida mexicana porque yo, como estadounidense, como mucha comida mexicana y no encontraba, y un día iba en un taxi o en un Uber y el conductor me dijo "español", que yo entendí como "hay muchos tacos en la calle". Stavo cercando del cibo messicano perché io, in quanto americana, mangio molto cibo messicano e non riuscivo a trovarne, e un giorno ero in un taxi o in un Uber e l'autista mi ha detto "spagnolo", che io ho inteso come "ci sono un sacco di tacos per strada". So, um, I said tacos, where? إذن، قلت التاكو، أين؟ Allora, ho detto tacos, dove? Like street tacos? ||tacos مثل سندويشات التاكو في الشوارع؟ And then he goes, Oh, no, sorry, sorry. ثم يقول: أوه، لا، آسف، آسف.

That's our slang "taco" is how we say traffic and Chile. |||trafic||||||| |||traffic||||||| |||trânsito||||||| |||交通||||||| |||Verkehr||||||| |||tráfico en Chile|||||tráfico (taco)|| هذه هي لغتنا العامية "تاكو" وهي الطريقة التي نقول بها حركة المرور وشيلي. 那是我们的俚语“taco”就是我们所说的交通和智利。 There's no tacos. ليس هناك سندويشات التاكو. 没有炸玉米饼。 And I'm like, that's like a double bummer. |||||||déception |||||||real disappointment ||||||o dobro|azar |||||||真糟糕 |||||||schade |||||||실망 |||||||E che sfortuna. |||||||nešťastie |||||||真糟糕 |||||||がっかりだ |||||||Qué mal. وأنا أقول أن هذا بمثابة مشكلة مزدوجة. E mi viene da pensare che è una doppia seccatura. И мне нравится, что это похоже на двойной облом. Và tôi nghĩ, điều đó giống như một điều đáng tiếc gấp đôi. 我想，这就像一个双重打击。

Elle: How Disappointing. ||Enttäuschend ||frustratingly under ||Que decepcionante. ||Qué decepción. ايل: كم هو مخيب للآمال.

Shelby: It was a big disappointment. |||||失望 |||||Enttäuschung شيلبي: لقد كانت خيبة أمل كبيرة. I mean, Mexico is very far away from Chile. ||Mexiko|||||| ||México|||||| أعني أن المكسيك بعيدة جدًا عن تشيلي. Il Messico è molto lontano dal Cile. Anyone needs to look at a map if they think there are anywhere close to each other. quiconque||||||||||||n'importe où|||| |must||||||||||||||| ||||||map|||||||||| يحتاج أي شخص إلى إلقاء نظرة على الخريطة إذا كان يعتقد أن هناك مكانًا قريبًا من بعضها البعض. Cualquiera tiene que mirar un mapa si cree que están cerca unos de otros. Chiunque ha bisogno di guardare una mappa se pensa che siano vicini l'uno all'altro. So, you know, that was a lot of, it was a lot of fumbling in the beginning and actually like for the first eight months or so, I would say I had a really hard time holding a, an extensive conversation with any Chilean. |||||||||||||hésitation|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||awkward attempts||||||||||||||||||||||||||long detailed|discussion|||Chilean person |||||||||||||atrapalhando|||||||||||||||||||||||segurando|||extensa|||| |||||||||||||摸索||||||||||||||||||||||||||深入的|||| |||||||||||||tasten||||||||||||||||||||||||||umfassenden||||chilenisch |||||||||||||실수|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||tentativi goffi|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||nešikovnosti||||||||||||||||||||||||||rozsiahlu|||| |||||||||||||摸索||||||||||||||||||||||||||深入的|||| |||||||||||||手探り|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||torpeza|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| لذا، كما تعلمون، كان ذلك كثيرًا، وكان هناك الكثير من التحسس في البداية، وفي الواقع كما هو الحال خلال الأشهر الثمانية الأولى أو نحو ذلك، أود أن أقول إنني واجهت صعوبة حقًا في إجراء محادثة موسعة مع أي تشيلي. Así que, ya sabes, eso fue mucho, fue mucho tanteo al principio y, de hecho, durante los primeros ocho meses más o menos, diría que me costó mucho mantener una conversación extensa con cualquier chileno. Quindi, sai, all'inizio c'è stata molta confusione e, in realtà, per i primi otto mesi o giù di lì, direi che ho avuto molta difficoltà a sostenere una conversazione approfondita con un cileno. Yani, bilirsiniz, bu çoktu, başlangıçta çok beceriksizdi ve aslında ilk sekiz ay kadar, herhangi bir Şilili ile kapsamlı bir konuşma yapmakta gerçekten zorlandığımı söyleyebilirim.

Um, but I met some great friends and they really helped me. حسنًا، لكنني قابلت بعض الأصدقاء الرائعين وقد ساعدوني حقًا. Um, you know, stay sane and, you know, and acclimate too like, I, um, felt safe speaking to them in Spanish. ||||sain d'esprit|||||||||||||||| ||||mentally stable|||||adjust to new|||||||||||en español ||||são|||||se adaptar||||||||||| ||||保持理智|||||適應||||||||||| ||||verrückt|||||sich akklimatisieren||||||||||| ||||정신을 차리다|||||적응하다||||||||||| ||||triezvy|||||aklimatizovať||||||||||| ||||保持理智|||||适应||||||||||| ||||正気でいる|||||慣れる||||||||||| ||||cuerdo/a|||||acostumbrarse||||||||||| كما تعلمون، ابقوا عاقلين، وتأقلموا أيضًا، كما تعلمون، شعرت بالأمان عند التحدث إليهم باللغة الإسبانية. Sai, rimanere sani di mente e, sai, anche acclimatarmi, come se mi sentissi sicura a parlare con loro in spagnolo. Um, because of course it's, it can be really like demoralizing to just not know the right word and stumble. |||||||||||||||||||trébucher ||||||||||disheartening|||||||||trip over words ||||||||||desmoralizante|||||||||tropeçar ||||||||||令人沮喪|||||||||結結巴巴 ||||||||||demoralisierend|||||||||stolpern ||||||||||사기 저하하는|||||||||실수하다 ||||||||||demoralizujúce|||||||||zakopnúť ||||||||||令人沮丧|||||||||结结巴巴 ||||||||||士気をくじく|||||||||つまずく ||||||||||desmoralizante|||||||||tropezar أم، لأنه بالطبع، يمكن أن يكون الأمر محبطًا حقًا لعدم معرفة الكلمة الصحيحة والتعثر. Perché, ovviamente, può essere davvero demoralizzante non sapere la parola giusta e inciampare. Eh, omdat het natuurlijk zo is, kan het echt als demoraliserend zijn om gewoon het juiste woord niet te kennen en te struikelen. Ừm, tất nhiên là như vậy nên việc không biết dùng từ thích hợp và vấp ngã có thể thực sự giống như mất tinh thần. And then people think you're stupid and you know that you're not stupid, but |||||dumm|||||||| |||||foolish|||||||| |||||estúpido|||||||| ومن ثم يعتقد الناس أنك غبي وأنت تعلم أنك لست غبيا، ولكن

they have no way of knowing that because you can't articulate yourself, so, you know, humbling experience for sure. |||||||||||||||expérience humiliante||| ||||||||||express clearly|||||humbling||| ||||||||||expressar claramente|||||humilhante||| ||||||||||表達|||||||| |||||wissen|||||ausdrücken|||||demütigende Erfahrung||| ||||||||||표현하다|||||겸손한||| |||||||||||||||esperienza umiliante||| |||||||||||||||pokorná||| ||||||||||表达|||||谦卑的||| |||||||||||||||謙虚にさせる||| |||||||||||||||experiencia humillante||| ليس لديهم طريقة لمعرفة ذلك لأنك لا تستطيع التعبير عن نفسك، لذا، كما تعلم، تجربة متواضعة بالتأكيد. non hanno modo di saperlo perché non puoi esprimerti, quindi, sai, è sicuramente un'esperienza umiliante. họ không có cách nào để biết điều đó bởi vì bạn không thể nói rõ bản thân mình, vì vậy, bạn biết đấy, chắc chắn là có kinh nghiệm khiêm tốn.

Elle: Yeah. ايلي: نعم. And in terms of, uh, safety then, do you felt safer in Santiago than you did in Quito? ||||||||||sicherer||||||| ||||||||||more secure||Santiago Chile|||||Quito Ecuador ||||||||||mais seguro||||||| وفيما يتعلق بالسلامة إذن، هل شعرت بأمان أكبر في سانتياغو مما شعرت به في كيتو؟

Shelby: Yeah, much safer. Um, you know, safe safety is always relative. |||||||dependent on context كما تعلمون، السلامة الآمنة دائمًا نسبية. Sabes, a segurança é sempre relativa. Ừm, bạn biết đấy, an toàn an toàn luôn mang tính chất tương đối. Um, but yeah, I would say Santiago was much safer and you could walk on the street after it gets dark. ||||||||||||||||||||night falls

Um, you know, of course always have your wits about you, but, um, the Metro, um, is a great system of transportation and then I could easily, you know, get off and walk several blocks. ||||||||esprit|||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||alertness||||||subway system|||||||public transit|||||||||exit||||city blocks ||||||terás||juízo||||||metrô|||||||transporte||||||||||||| ||||||||機智||||||地鐵|||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||Verstand||||||U-Bahn|||||||Verkehrssystem||||||||||||mehrere|Blöcke ||||||||정신|||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||rozum|||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||机智||||||地铁|||||||交通系统||||||||||||几条|几个街区 ||||||تملك|||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||注意力|||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||sentido común|||||||||||||||||||||||||| حسنًا، كما تعلم، بالطبع كن دائمًا ذكيًا بشأنك، ولكن، المترو، هو نظام نقل رائع ومن ثم يمكنني بسهولة، كما تعلم، النزول والمشي عدة بنايات. Ovviamente bisogna sempre essere lucidi, ma la metropolitana è un ottimo sistema di trasporto e posso scendere facilmente e camminare per diversi isolati.

So then in

Elle: terms of culture shock, so the language, I guess, was a bit shocking for you to realize that you had to, I guess, not learn a whole new language, but you know, learn a lot of slang and the different ways of speaking. ||||震惊|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||俚语|||||| ||||Schock|||||||||schockierend|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||surprising|||||||||surprising|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||chocante||||perceber|||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||俚語|||||| Elle: مصطلحات الصدمة الثقافية، لذا أعتقد أن اللغة كانت صادمة بعض الشيء بالنسبة لك لتدرك أنه كان عليك، على ما أعتقد، عدم تعلم لغة جديدة تمامًا، ولكن كما تعلم، تعلم الكثير من اللغات العامية والطرق المختلفة من الكلام. Elle: En términos de choque cultural, el idioma, supongo, fue un poco chocante para ti darte cuenta de que tenías que, supongo, no aprender un idioma completamente nuevo, pero ya sabes, aprender un montón de jerga y las diferentes formas de hablar.

Was there anything else that you can think of that jumps out as surprising or took some getting used to in Chile? ||||||||||auffällt||||||||||| ||||||||||stands out|||||||adjustment|||| ||||||||||chama a atenção|||surpreendente|||||||| هل كان هناك أي شيء آخر يمكن أن تعتقد أنه كان مفاجئًا أو استغرق بعض الوقت للتعود عليه في تشيلي؟ ¿Hay algo más que le haya sorprendido o a lo que le haya costado acostumbrarse en Chile? C'è stato qualcos'altro che le è sembrato sorprendente o a cui ha dovuto abituarsi in Cile? チリでの生活で驚いたこと、慣れるのに時間がかかったことなど、思い当たることはありますか？ Şili'de şaşırtıcı olduğunu düşündüğünüz veya alışmanın biraz zaman aldığı başka bir şey var mıydı?

Oh, yeah.

Shelby: A lot, you know, it's interesting because, um, I've been to like some kind of obscure countries, um, and Chile out of any place I've been is the most similar to the US and a lot of ways, like even Santiago, it looks kind of like Los Angeles. ||||||||||||||||uncommon or unknown||||Чилі||||||||||most alike|||||||||||||||||Los Angeles|Los Angeles ||||||||||||||||obscuros|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Los|Los Angeles ||||||||||||||||不知名的|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||obskuren|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Los Angeles|Los Angeles ||||||||||||||||낯선|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||neznáme|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||不知名的|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||洛杉矶|洛杉矶 شيلبي: كثيرًا، كما تعلمون، إنه أمر مثير للاهتمام لأنني كنت أحب بعض البلدان الغامضة، وتشيلي من أي مكان زرته هي الأكثر تشابهًا مع الولايات المتحدة والعديد من الطرق ، مثل سانتياغو، تبدو نوعًا ما مثل لوس أنجلوس. Shelby: Molto, sai, è interessante perché sono stata in alcuni paesi oscuri e il Cile, tra tutti i posti in cui sono stata, è il più simile agli Stati Uniti e per molti versi, anche Santiago, assomiglia a Los Angeles. シェルビー私はこれまで、よくわからない国に行ったことがあるのですが、その中でもチリが一番アメリカに似ていて、サンティアゴでさえも、ロサンゼルスに似ているんです。謝爾比：很多，你知道，這很有趣，因為，嗯，我一直喜歡一些不知名的國家，嗯，智利是我去過的所有地方中與美國最相似的，而且在很多方面甚至像聖地亞哥一樣，它看起來有點像洛杉磯。

Um, it feels kind of like New York when you're walking on the street, because there's just like so many people and it's like a metropolis, um, And it's developed. |||||||||||||||||||||||||major city|||| |||||||York||||||||||||||||||metrópole|||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||大都市|||| |||||||New York||||||||||||||||||Metropole|||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||대도시|||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||metropola|||| |||||||纽约||||||||||||||||||大都市|||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||metrópolis|||| Quando si cammina per strada ci si sente un po' come a New York, perché c'è tanta gente ed è come una metropoli, ed è sviluppata. Um, and you know, every place takes credit cards. ||||每個|||| |||||||cartão de crédito| E sai, tutti i posti accettano carte di credito. Um, whereas in Quito, in Ecuador, like not every place is going to take credit cards. ||||||||每個||||||| |||||the country|||||||||| |enquanto|||||||||||||| Mentre a Quito, in Ecuador, non tutti i posti accettano le carte di credito. And in fact, like they are going to really want you to have like exact change cause they don't always have change. ||||||||||||||确切的零钱||||||| |in|||||||||||||precise||||||| ||||||||||||||troco exato|troco|||||| Y de hecho, van a querer que tengas el cambio exacto porque no siempre tienen cambio. Anzi, vorranno che tu abbia il resto esatto, perché non sempre hanno il resto. 事实上，他们确实希望你有零钱，因为他们并不总是有零钱。

Um, so small things like that that make you feel like, Oh, I'm really in a different place right now. You didn't have that in Chile, but, out of any place I've ever been. Eso no lo tenías en Chile, pero, fuera de cualquier lugar que he estado. Non c'era in Cile, ma in nessun altro posto in cui sono stato. I had the strongest culture shock in Chile. |||stärksten|||| |||o maior|||| Could have been because I was also working there. ربما كان ذلك لأنني كنت أعمل هناك أيضًا. Forse perché anch'io lavoravo lì. And so I felt like culture shock from, um, the way my coworkers interacted with me. |||||||||||||engaged with|| ||||||||||||colegas de trabalho|interagiam|| ||||||||||||同事們||| ||||||||||||Kollegen|interagierten|| ||||||||||||同事们|互动|| |||||||||||||接した||

But, um, like the big thing was the food. でも、その、大きなものは食べ物だったんです。 Но самое главное - это еда. Um, they eat a pretty, um, I would say like a not incredibly variable diet. |||||||||||||diverse or varied|eating habits |||||||||||||um|uma dieta |||||||||||||多樣化的| |||||||||||||abwechslungsreiche| ||||||||||||incredibilmente|| |||||||||||||多样化的| ||||||||||||信じられないほど|| أم، إنهم يأكلون نظامًا غذائيًا جميلًا، أود أن أقول إنه نظام غذائي غير متغير بشكل لا يصدق. Mangiano una dieta piuttosto... direi non incredibilmente variabile. 彼らは、かなり、いや、信じられないほど変化に富んだ食事をしています。 Хм, они едят красивую, я бы сказал, не очень разнообразную диету. And again, coming from the States and also coming from Portland, Oregon. |||||||||||俄勒岡そしてまた、アメリカから、そしてオレゴン州ポートランドからやってきました。 Um, if anyone's like read a blog about Portland or visited, you probably know it's like a big food city and there's just... ||||||部落格|||||||||||||||| ||jemandem||||Blog|||||||||||||||| ||anyone who|||||||||||||||||||| ||||||블로그|||||||||||||||| ||de alguém|||||||||||||||||||| Se qualcuno ha letto un blog su Portland o l'ha visitata, probabilmente sa che è una grande città del cibo e che ci sono... ポートランドのブログを読んだり、訪れたことがある人なら、ポートランドが食の街であることをご存知でしょう。そして、そこには...

you just get like a wide range of food. ||||||eine große Auswahl|| ||||||variety|| |||||variedade|variedade|| usted acaba de obtener como una amplia gama de alimentos. いろいろな種類の食べ物が手に入ります。 So, you know, you're going to have the Mexican food, of course, um, a lot of different foods from Asia, um, you know, um, Thai food and, um, you know, lots of sushi and different, um, Japanese foods, Korean, Chinese food. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||寿司|||||||| |||||||||||||||||Gerichte||Asien|||||thailändisches Essen||||||||Sushi||||japanische|||| |||||||||||||||||||Asian cuisine|||||||||||a lot||||||Japanese foods|||| |||||||||||||||||alimentos||Ásia|||||comida tailandesa||||||||||||||coreano|| メキシコ料理はもちろん、アジアのさまざまな料理、タイ料理、寿司、日本料理、韓国料理、中国料理など、さまざまな料理があります。 I mean, there's just so much, um, You got very little of that in Santiago and Chile. ||||||||||pouco|||||| サンティアゴやチリでは、そのようなことはほとんどありませんでした。

And they mostly just eat like the core elements of the diet are, um, different kinds of meat, like ham and stuff like that. ||переважно|||such as|||||||||various|||||шинка|||| ||principalmente|||||núcleo||||||||||carne||presunto|||| |||||||核心|||||||||||||||| Und|||||||Kernelemente||||||||||||Schinken|||| |||||||||||||||||||火腿|||| |||||||core|||||||||||||||| وهم في الغالب يأكلون مثل العناصر الأساسية للنظام الغذائي، وهي أنواع مختلفة من اللحوم، مثل لحم الخنزير وأشياء من هذا القبيل. Y en su mayoría sólo comen, como los elementos básicos de la dieta son, um, diferentes tipos de carne, como el jamón y cosas por el estilo. そして、食事の中心は、ハムなどさまざまな種類の肉です。 Um, cheese, and also not like sharp cheese, but more like just kind of more bland cheese, I would say. ||||||strong-flavored|||||||||mild or plain|cheese||| |queijo|||||suave|||||||||sem sabor|||| |||||||||||||||淡的|||| |Käse||||||||||||||mild|||| |||||||||||||||부드러운|||| |||||||||||||||jemný|||| ||||||尖锐的|||||||||淡的|||| ||y||||fuerte|||||||||insípido|||| أم، الجبن، وأيضًا ليس مثل الجبن الحاد، ولكنه أشبه بنوع من الجبن اللطيف، على ما أعتقد. Formaggio, e anche non come un formaggio piccante, ma più come una specie di formaggio più blando, direi. チーズ、それもシャープなチーズではなく、もっと淡白なチーズと言ったところでしょうか。 And, um, bread, like really good bread. ||хліб|||| ||pan||||pan そして、パン、本当においしいパンのようなものです。 I learned that Chile is number two in the world for bread per capita. |||||||||||||per person ||||||||||||por cabeça|por pessoa |||||||||||||人均 ||||||||||||pro Kopf|pro Kopf |||||||||||||hlavu |||||||||||面包|人均|人均 وعلمت أن تشيلي هي الثانية في العالم من حيث نصيب الفرد من الخبز. Aprendí que Chile es el número dos del mundo en pan per cápita. チリは国民一人当たりのパンの数が世界第2位だと知りました。

And right after Germany. そして、ドイツの直後。 Okay.

yeah.

I met some Germans and Sheila who were like, yeah, like good breads here, but not like at home. |||||Sheila|||||||types of bread|||||| |||||Sheila|||||||pães|||||| |||||希拉|||||||面包|||||| |||Deutsche||Sheila|||||||Brote|||||| |||||希拉||||||||||||| ||||||||||||パン|||||| |||||||||||||||no como en|como que|| Ho incontrato alcuni tedeschi e Sheila che dicevano: "Sì, qui il pane è buono, ma non come a casa". ドイツ人やシーラにも会いましたが、ああ、ここでは美味しいパンが食べられるけど、故郷のパンとは違うみたいな感じでしたね。 Um, but yeah, I mean, it's amazing and delicious food. えっと、でも、そうですね、すごい美味しい料理なんですけどね。 They also make, they grow some excellent, um, avacadoes there, but, um, I was vegan and gluten free when I arrived and made it really hard. ||||||||avocados||||||plant-based||wheat protein||||||||| ||||||||abacates||||||vegana||glúten||||||||| ||||||||鳄梨||||||||無麩質||||||||| ||||ziehen||||Avocados||||||vegan||glutenfrei||||||||| ||||||||鳄梨||||||素食主义者||无麸质||||||||| ||||||||アボカド||||||ビーガン||グルテン||||||||| ||||crescono||||aguacates||||||vegana||gluten||||llegué||||| Inoltre, lì coltivano degli ottimi avacado, ma quando sono arrivata ero vegana e senza glutine e questo mi ha reso molto difficile. アボカドの栽培も盛んなのですが、私が来たときはビーガンでグルテンフリーだったので、本当に大変でした。 To, to adapt. ||anpassen ||Adjust or modify. ||adapt And I mean, I, I, I changed my diet, um, but I just found it hard to find, you know, good vegan options and like spicy food too. |||||||||||||||||||||||||辣的|| ||||||||||||||||||||||Optionen||||| |||||||||||||||||||||opções veganas|opções veganas|||apimentada|| Y|||||||||||||||||||||vegano|||||| E voglio dire, io, io, io ho cambiato la mia dieta, um, ma ho trovato difficile trovare, sai, buone opzioni vegane e anche cibo piccante. 食生活を変えたのですが、ヴィーガンのメニューを見つけるのが大変で、辛いものも好きなんです。

Um, I find that like, of course I'm generalizing. ||||||||making broad statements ||||||||generalizando ||||||||概括 ||||||||verallgemeinere ||||||||generalizujem ||||||||概括 ||||||||一般化している ||||||||generalizando أم، أجد ذلك، بالطبع أنا أعمم. Trovo che, ovviamente, sto generalizzando. もちろん、一般論です。 Я нахожу это, конечно, обобщаю. 嗯，我發現當然我在概括。 There are certainly people who are exceptions, but the typical Chilean diet is like, you eat a lot of, um, rice, meat. ||||||винятки||||Chilean people||||||||||| ||ciertamente||||excepciones||||chilena típica|||||||mucho|||| من المؤكد أن هناك أشخاصًا يمثلون استثناءات، لكن النظام الغذائي التشيلي النموذجي هو أنك تأكل الكثير من الأرز واللحوم. でも、チリの典型的な食事は、米と肉をたくさん食べるようなものです。確實有一些人是例外，但典型的智利飲食是，你吃很多，嗯，米飯和肉。 Um, if you eat cheese, like really bland, almost like flavorless cheese, I would say. ||||||||||tasteless|||| |||||||sem sabor|||sem sabor|||| ||||||||||无味|||| ||||||||||geschmacklos|||| ||||||||||无味的|||| ||||||||||風味のない|||| ||||||||casi||insípido|||diría|diría yo أم، إذا كنت تأكل الجبن، مثل الجبن لطيف حقا، تقريبا مثل الجبن عديم النكهة، أود أن أقول. Se mangiate formaggio, direi che si tratta di un formaggio molto insipido, quasi insapore. えーと、チーズを食べるなら、本当に淡白な、ほとんど味のないチーズのような、そんな感じかな。嗯，如果你吃起司，那種真的很平淡的，幾乎像是沒有味道的起司，我會這麼說。 And you don't like spicy foods. وأنت لا تحب الأطعمة الحارة. そして、辛いものが苦手なんですね。 Um, even like an onion, it might be considered really spicy. ||||||||betrachtet|| ||||vegetable|||||| ||||cebola|||||| ||||cebolla||||considerado|| أم، حتى مثل البصل، يمكن اعتباره حارًا جدًا. Anche come cipolla, potrebbe essere considerata molto piccante. あの、玉ねぎのようなものでも、すごく辛いと思われるかもしれませんね。

And I feel like I'm throwing a lot of shade, but like, I, I talked to my friends in Chile about this all the time. |||||||||disrespect||||||||||||||| |||||jogando||||sombras||||||||||||||| |||||werfe||||Schaden||||||||||||||| |||||||||critiche velate||||||||||||||| |||||||||贬低||||||||||||||| |||||tirando||||indirectas|||||hablé|||||||||| وأشعر وكأنني ألقي الكثير من الظلال، لكنني تحدثت مع أصدقائي في تشيلي حول هذا الأمر طوال الوقت. Y me siento como si estuviera arrojando mucha sombra, pero como, yo, yo hablaba con mis amigos en Chile acerca de esto todo el tiempo. Mi sembra di fare un po' di confusione, ma ne ho sempre parlato con i miei amici in Cile. でも、チリの友人とはいつもこの話をしてたんです。 Và tôi cảm thấy như mình đang ném rất nhiều bóng râm, nhưng giống như, tôi, tôi đã nói chuyện với bạn bè của mình ở Chile về điều này mọi lúc. Like you guys like. مثلكم مثل الرجال. Come se vi piacesse. Need to expand your horizons when it comes to cuisine. ||broaden||range of experiences|||||food and cooking ||||horizontes||||| ||||Horizonte||||| ||||시야|할 때|||| ||||obzory||||| |||||||se trata de||cocina تحتاج إلى توسيع آفاقك عندما يتعلق الأمر بالمطبخ. 料理に関しても、視野を広げる必要がある。 Нужно расширять свой кругозор, когда речь идет о кухне. Cần mở rộng tầm nhìn của bạn khi nói đến ẩm thực. And so, you know, I'm just, I like really spicy food. So I just struggled with that. |||hatte Schwierigkeiten|| |||had difficulty with|| |||luché con eso|| |||lutei|| لذلك كافحت مع ذلك.

Elle: That's so sad when you gluten-free for health reasons or just, just doing it.. ||||||gluten-free||||||||| ||||||sin gluten|||salud|||||haciéndolo| Elle: إنه لأمر محزن للغاية عندما تكون خاليًا من الغلوتين لأسباب صحية أو لمجرد القيام بذلك.. Elle: È così triste quando si è senza glutine per motivi di salute o semplicemente per...

Shelby: Not because like I am have celiac or I'm gluten intolerant, but for health reasons, and that I found, I find that I like. |||||||gluten intolerance condition|||gluten|sensitive to gluten||||||||||||| |||||||celíaca||||intolerante||||||||||||| |||||||乳糜泻||||不耐受||||||||||||| |||||||Zöliakie||||glutenunverträglich||||||||||||| |||||||셀리악||||내성적||||||||||||| |||||||乳糜泻||||不耐受||||||||||||| |||||||セリアック病|||グルテン|グルテン不耐性||||||||||||| |||||||celíaca|||gluten|intolerante al gluten||||||||||||| Shelby: Non perché sono celiaca o intollerante al glutine, ma per motivi di salute, e ho scoperto che mi piace. Shelby: Niet omdat ik coeliakie heb of omdat ik gluten-intolerant ben, maar om gezondheidsredenen, en dat vond ik, vind ik dat ik het lekker vind. Shelby: Không phải vì tôi mắc bệnh celiac hay tôi không dung nạp gluten, mà vì lý do sức khỏe, và tôi nhận thấy, tôi thấy mình thích. Um, think better and have better energy when I stay away from gluten. ||||||精力|||||| ||||||||||lejos de||gluten I mean, I'm, I'm not strictly gluten free. |||||严格来说|| |emphasizing||||entirely|| |quero dizer||||rigorosamente|| I just kind of like, I try to avoid it and I don't make it like a main element of my diet. ||||||||||||||||||主要成分||| ||||||||||||||||||Hauptelement||| ||||||||||||||||||main component||| ||||||||||||||||||element|||

Elle: Okay. So you did try some of the bread? |||||||面包 |||||||pan Quindi hai assaggiato un po' di pane? Okay, good. That's good. That's good. I was going to say I love bread. Okay.

You can't beat like really good bread and really, full fat creamy butter is just... |||||||||全脂|全脂|奶油的||| ||übertreffen|||||||||cremige|Butter|| ||surpass|such as||||||||rich and smooth||| ||pão|||||||||cremosa|manteiga cremosa|| ||superar|||||||||cremoso/a|mantequilla cremosa|| Non c'è niente di meglio di un buon pane e di un burro cremoso e ricco di grassi... 本当に美味しいパンと、本当に美味しい全脂クリーミーバターがあれば、言うことなしです。 Вы не можете бить, как настоящий хороший хлеб, и действительно, жирное сливочное масло просто ...

Shelby: oh yeah.

Elle: Simple as good, but, so, okay. |simples||||| That was going to make me sad if you couldn't have any of that bread. ||||||triste|||no pudieras|||||pan

Shelby: Oh no, it's great. ||||genial

Like, I, I feel bad, you know, for anyone who, who can't actually indulge and try it. |||||||||||||enjoy fully||| |||||||||||||se entregar||| |||||||||||||享受||| |||||||||||||sich verwöhnen||| |||||||||||||즐기다||| |||||||||||||dopriať||| |||||||||||||享受||| ||||||||||||realmente|darse el gusto||| مثلًا، أشعر بالسوء، كما تعلمون، تجاه أي شخص لا يستطيع الانغماس في الأمر وتجربته. Mi dispiace, insomma, per chi non può concedersi di provarlo. Мне, например, жаль всех, кто не может побаловать себя и попробовать это. Cause it's, it's amazing. They're the main bread, um, that you're going to have to try if you ever go to Chile is marraqueta. |||||||||||||||||||Chilean bread rolls ||pão|||||||||||||||||marraqueta |||||||||||||||||||馬卡塔 |||||||||||||||||||Marraqueta-Brot |||||||||||||||||||marraqueta |||||||||||||||||||玛拉夸塔 |||||||||||||||||||マラケタ Ellos||||||||||||||||||es|marraqueta إنها الخبز الرئيسي الذي يجب عليك تجربته إذا ذهبت إلى تشيلي وهو الماراكويتا. Il pane principale che dovete provare se andate in Cile è la marraqueta. Это главный хлеб, который вам придется попробовать, если вы когда-нибудь поедете в Чили, - это марракета. And it's sold everywhere. ||é vendido| It's like freshly baked every day. ||新鲜出炉|新鲜出炉|| ||frisch|frisch gebacken|| |||made daily|| ||fresquinho|assada|| ||recién||| È come se fosse appena sfornato ogni giorno. Like even at the grocery store, as they sell the freshly baked stuff. ||||杂货店|||||||| |||||||||||свіжоспечений| ||||||||vendem||frescos|assados| |incluso|||||||||recién||cosas recién horneadas Anche al supermercato, dove si vendono prodotti appena sfornati.

And you walk by like any cafe and it's just, the smell is wafting out and you're like, I need that right now. |||||||||||||floating through air||||||||| ||||||café|||||||pairando||||||||| |||||||||||||飄散出來||||||||| |||||||||||||weht||||||||| |||||||||||||퍼져나오고||||||||| |||||||||||||si diffonde||||||||| |||||||||||||vynáša||||||||| |||||||||||||飘散||||||||| |||||||||||||漂っている||||||||| ||||||cafetería|||||||flotando||Y||||necesito||ahora mismo|ahora mismo E quando passi davanti a un caffè qualsiasi, l'odore che si sprigiona ti fa pensare: "Ne ho bisogno proprio adesso".

Elle: Best smell ever. |||mejor de todos Baking bread. Brot backen| Making bread| fazendo| Hornear pan.|Pan. Cuocere il pane. Good.

Okay.

Good.

Um, so you were, uh, working in an office then in Santiago. それで、あなたはそのときサンティアゴのオフィスで働いていましたね。 Or, you were working remotely? ||||remotamente Oh, okay. So you were able to interact with other Chileans or was it in an office of people from all over the world? ||||||||people from Chile|||||||||with||||the globe ||||||||chilenos||||||||||||| ||||||||智利人||||||||||||| ||||||||Chilenen||||||||||||| ||||||||智利人||||||||||||| |||||interactuar con|||chilenos||||||||||||| Quindi ha potuto interagire con altri cileni o si trovava in un ufficio di persone provenienti da tutto il mondo?

Or a bit of both. ||||ambos

Shelby: It was a lot of Chileans, but yeah. ||||||people from Chile|| Um, we had people from all over the world. ||||||||globe Um, I was really, really fortunate. |||||very lucky |||||sortudo |||||afortunado/a Um, the team that I, um, had the pleasure of managing there, um, was the customer experience department. |||||||||||||||Kundenerlebnis|| |||||||||||||||||customer experience department ||||||||prazer||gerenciando|||||cliente||departamento ||||||||placer de dirigir||||||||experiencia del cliente|departamento Il team che ho avuto il piacere di gestire era il dipartimento di customer experience. And they were especially like a melting pot. ||||||schmelzender| |||||a|| ||||||um caldeirão|caldeirão |||especialmente|||crisol cultural|crisol وكانوا بشكل خاص مثل بوتقة الانصهار. Y eran especialmente como un crisol. E soprattutto erano come un melting pot. И они были особенно похожи на плавильный котел. Và chúng đặc biệt giống như một cái nồi nấu chảy. We had a lot of Brazilians on that team. |||||бразильців||| |||||brasileiros||| |||||巴西人||| |||||Brasilianer||| |||||巴西人||| |||||Brasileños|||equipo

Um, a girl from Venezuela, um, a girl from France. ||||South American country||||| ||||Venezuela||||| ||||委内瑞拉||||| ||||Venezuela||||| ||||委内瑞拉||||| ||||Venezuela|||||Francia And I mean, we actually, we expanded the team and ended up bringing more and more immigrants onboard. |||we (the team)||||||||||||||into the team ||quero dizer||||||||||||||imigrantes|a bordo |||||||||||||||||加入 ||||||erweiterten|||||||||||ins Team holen ||||||||||||引入||||移民| ||||de hecho||ampliamos||equipo||||trayendo||||inmigrantes|a bordo Um, yeah, a lot of Chileans. |||||Chileans |||||Chilenos And then Brazilians, I would say, would be the next largest population we had. ||||||||||größte|Bevölkerung|| ||Brasileños|||||serían||siguiente más grande|más grande|población más grande||

Elle: And is it, so Brazilians then they're speaking Spanish? And because it's not, as, it's not, they're not super interchangeable, right? ||||||||||easily replaceable| ||||||||||intercambiáveis| ||||||||||可互換| ||||||||||austauschbar| ||||||||||교환 가능한| ||||||||||vymeniteľné| ||||||||||可互换的| |||||||||muy|intercambiables| E perché non è, come, non è, non sono super intercambiabili, giusto?

Like you don't just know Spanish if you speak Portuguese and viceversa or? |||||||||Not mutually intelligible||"and the reverse"| |||||||||||vice-versa| |||||||||||反之亦然| |||||||||Portugiesisch||umgekehrt| |||||||||||naopak| |||||||||葡萄牙语||反之亦然| |||||||||||その逆もまた| ||no necesariamente|||||||portugués, ¿verdad?||y viceversa| Come se non si conoscesse lo spagnolo solo se si parla il portoghese e viceversa o? Как будто вы не знаете испанский, если говорите на португальском, и наоборот?

Shelby: Sure. |Claro. Yeah.

I mean, you don't know. ||||sabes I mean, you, you do have to learn the languages individually, but there they are so similar and I mean, I can. ||||||||||单独地||||||||||| ||||||||||einzeln||||||||||| ||||||||||one at a time||||||||||| ||||||||||individualmente||||||||||| |||||||||idiomas|individualmente|pero||||tan||y|||Yo| I can understand. ||Puedo entender. Um, I can read a decent amount of, um, Portuguese, um, and over time, as I listened to the Brazilians, like speaking with each other, and I got to know like their personalities and I was reading the context of the situation, like I was starting to understand a small amount of what they said. |||||fairly good|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||situation context|||||||beginning to||||||||| ||||||uma quantidade||||||||||||||||||||||||||personalidades||||||||||||||||||uma quantidade|||| |||||anständige|||||||||||hörte||||||||||||||||Persönlichkeiten|||||||||||||||||||||| |||||괜찮은||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||slušné||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||相当多|相当多||||||||||听||||||||||||||||个性|||||||||||||||||||||| |||||decente|pequeña cantidad|||portugués|||con el tiempo||a medida que||escuchaba a los|||brasileños|||entre sí|||||llegué a entender|||como|sus|personalidades||||||contexto de la situación|||situación||||empezando a entender||entender|una pequeña cantidad|pequeña cantidad de|cantidad pequeña||lo que||dijeron أستطيع أن أقرأ قدرًا لا بأس به من، امم، البرتغالية، امم، وبمرور الوقت، حيث كنت أستمع إلى البرازيليين، مثل التحدث مع بعضهم البعض، وتعرفت على شخصياتهم وكنت أقرأ سياق الموقف وكأنني بدأت أفهم جزءًا صغيرًا مما قالوه.

Um, but yeah, they ha they had to learn the languages separately. ||||是|||||||单独地 ||||haben|||||||separat ||||têm|||||||separadamente Eh|||ellos|han|ellos|tenían que||aprender|el|idiomas|por separado أم، ولكن نعم، كان عليهم أن يتعلموا اللغات بشكل منفصل. Гм, но да, им пришлось учить языки отдельно. And, um, the team that I managed, they, um, were all trilingual. |||||||||||fluent in three languages |||||||||||三語的 |||||||||||dreisprachig |||||||||||trojjazyční |||||||||||三语的 ||||que||dirigí|ellos|||todos|trilingües So they all had to speak, um, at least English and Spanish and another language just for the requirements of that role. ||||||||||||||||||要求||| ||||||||||||||||||Anforderungen||| ||||||||||||||||||criteria for role||| ||||||||||||||||||requisitos|||papel ||todos|tenían que|||||al menos|inglés|||y||idioma|solo|por||requisitos del puesto||| لذلك كان عليهم جميعًا أن يتحدثوا، على الأقل، الإنجليزية والإسبانية ولغة أخرى لتلبية متطلبات هذا الدور. Um, and some of them spoke four languages. ||||some of those||| |||||hablaban||idiomas I mean, they're super impressive. ||they are||дуже вражаючі ||||impressionantes |||súper|impresionantes Voglio dire, sono super impressionanti.

Elle: Wow, I'm so jealous of that. ||||závidím|| ||||neidisch|| ||||celosa|| ||||com inveja|| So...

Shelby: Yeah, it was, I felt very mediocre. |||||||average |||||||medíocre |||||||平庸 |||||||mittelmäßig |||||||보통했어요 |||||||priemerne |||||||平庸 |||||||mediocre Шелби: Да, я чувствовал себя очень посредственно.

Elle: Well, yeah, just the two languages. ||||||idiomas What an idiot. ||idiot ||真傻 ||Idiot ||foolish person ||idiota And you're on your way to three now cause you're learning French. ||||||||porque||aprendiendo| وأنت في طريقك إلى الثالثة الآن لأنك تتعلم الفرنسية. How's that going?

Shelby: Yeah. Working on it. Oh, it's, it's a lot of fun. Um, I mean I found LingQ at the beginning of this year, 2020, and I, I read a testimonial about it and I was like, Oh my gosh, like I have to, |||||||||||||||||positive review||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||depoimento|||||||||meu Deus|||| |||||||||||||||||推薦信||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||Testimonial|||||||||oh mein Gott|||| |||||||||||||||||후기||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||svedectvo||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||推荐信|||||||||天哪|||| ||||||||principio de este|||||||||testimonio||||||||||||| Хм, я имею в виду, что я нашел LingQ в начале этого года, 2020, и я, я прочитал отзыв о нем, и я подумал: «Боже мой, как будто я должен, Demek istediğim, LingQ'yu bu yılın başında, 2020'de buldum ve bununla ilgili bir referans okudum ve 'Aman Tanrım, yapmam gerekiyormuş gibi' dedim.

to try this and I got into it and was starting with the mini stories. |||||me metí||||||||| And I found that I was actually like retaining a lot of what I was reading, which was so weird. ||||||||keeping in mind||||||||||| ||||||||retendo|||||||||||estranho ||||||||保留||||||||||| ||||||||behalten||||||||||| ||||||||기억하고 있는||||||||||| ||||||||si zapamätával||||||||||| ||||||||记住||||||||||| ||||||||reteniendo|||||||||||raro Y descubrí que realmente retenía mucho de lo que leía, lo cual era muy extraño. Um, and...

Elle: surprising. |unexpectedly astonishing |sorprendente Yeah.

Right.

Shelby: Yeah. It's not intuitive compared to how I've learned in the past. ||easy to understand|||||||| ||intuitivo|||||||| ||直觀|||||||| ||intuitiv|||||||| ||직관적이지 않다|||||||| ||直观|||||||| |||comparado con||||||| إنها ليست بديهية مقارنة بما تعلمته في الماضي. Um, cause I've used Duolingo before. ||||Duolingo| ||||language learning app| ||||Duolingo| |Porque|||Duolingo|antes لاني استخدمت دولينجو من قبل Um, and of course I've had the classes, but this was like a full-on kind of immersive experience. |||||||||||||||||engaging| |||||||||||||completa||tipo||imersiva| |||||||||||||||||沉浸式| |||||||||||||||||intensive| |||||||||||||||||몰입형| |||||||||||||||||impozívny| |||||||||||||||||沉浸式| |||||||clases||||||||||inmersiva|experiencia inmersiva حسنًا، وبالطبع لقد تلقيت الدروس، ولكن هذا كان بمثابة تجربة غامرة كاملة. Конечно, у меня были занятия, но это был полноценный опыт погружения.

Um, And then I went, like when I got into, um, you know, learning through music and importing music videos to learn that way it became, I mean, it went from like, you know, here to like off the charts in terms of fun. |||||||||||||||||bringing in||||||||turned into||||||||||||||beyond expectations|||| ||||||||||||||através|||importar||||||||||||||||||||||gráficos|||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||超乎尋常|||| |||||||||||||||||Importieren von||||||||||||||||||||||außergewöhnlich|||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||超出图表|||| ||||||||||||||a través de|música||importar||videos musicales||||||||||||||||||||fuera de serie||en términos de|| أم، ثم ذهبت، مثلما حدث عندما بدأت، كما تعلمون، التعلم من خلال الموسيقى واستيراد مقاطع الفيديو الموسيقية للتعلم بهذه الطريقة، أعني، تحول الأمر من هنا، كما تعلمون، إلى الإعجاب بالمخططات في شروط المتعة. Um, Y luego me fui, como cuando me metí en, um, ya sabes, el aprendizaje a través de la música y la importación de videos musicales para aprender de esa manera se convirtió en, quiero decir, que pasó de como, ya sabes, aquí a como fuera de los gráficos en términos de diversión. E poi, quando ho iniziato a imparare attraverso la musica e a importare video musicali per imparare in quel modo, è diventato, voglio dire, è passato da, sai, qui a fuori scala in termini di divertimento. それから、音楽を通して学ぶようになり、ミュージックビデオを輸入して学ぶようになったんですが、これが、もう、楽しいの一言に尽きます。 And I actually crave it, you know, like at the end of the night, even if I'm tired and like, I didn't get to it that day. |||long for||||||||||||||exhausted||||||||| |||desejo||||||||||||||||||||||| |||渴望||||||||||||||||||||||| |||verlange danach||||||||||||||||||||||| |||갈망해||||||||||||||||||||||| |||desidero||||||||||||||||||||||| |||túžim||||||||||||||||||||||| |||渴望||||||||||||||||||||||| |||antojo||||||||||||||cansado/a||||||||| وأنا في الواقع أتوق إليه، كما تعلمون، في نهاية الليل، حتى لو كنت متعبًا، ولم أتمكن من ذلك في ذلك اليوم. E in realtà ne ho una gran voglia, sai, come alla fine della serata, anche se sono stanca e non sono riuscita a farlo quel giorno. И я действительно жажду его, знаете, как в конце вечера, даже если я устал и не успел сделать это в тот день.

I'm like, I want to actually, um, study on, on LingQ right now. Я хочу заняться LingQ прямо сейчас. So...

Elle: excellent.

Shelby: I've never had an experience like that before.

Elle: That's great. ايلي: هذا عظيم. That's a great place. It shouldn't be a chore, you know, we're taught, well, maybe not you because you enjoyed studying Spanish in school, but for a lot of people, you know, Oh, studying is a choice. ||||tedious task|||||||||||||estudiar español||||||||||||||| ||||tarefa||||aprendemos|||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||麻煩事|||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||Pflichtaufgabe|||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||compito noioso|||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||povinnosť|||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||苦差事||||||||||||||||||||||||||||选择 |||una tarea|tarea aburrida||||enseñados|||||||disfrutaste de||español||||||||||||estudiar|||elección لا ينبغي أن يكون ذلك عملاً روتينيًا، كما تعلمون، لقد تعلمنا، حسنًا، ربما ليس أنت لأنك استمتعت بدراسة اللغة الإسبانية في المدرسة، ولكن بالنسبة للكثير من الناس، كما تعلم، الدراسة هي اختيار. Non dovrebbe essere un lavoro, sai, ci viene insegnato, beh, forse non a te perché ti è piaciuto studiare lo spagnolo a scuola, ma per molte persone, sai, lo studio è una scelta. Đó không phải là một việc vặt, bạn biết đấy, chúng tôi được dạy, à, có thể không phải bạn vì bạn thích học tiếng Tây Ban Nha ở trường, nhưng đối với nhiều người, bạn biết đấy, Ồ, học tập là một sự lựa chọn.

Even if you enjoy the subject, sometimes, you know, you'd like, yeah, just get through this content. |||like||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||superar|| حتى لو كنت تستمتع بالموضوع، في بعض الأحيان، كما تعلم، قد ترغب في الاطلاع على هذا المحتوى. But yeah, when it doesn't feel like, like a chore, like, uh, task you have to get through in the day. |||||||||povinnosť||||||||||| |||||||||tarefa obrigatória||||||||durante||| |||||||||tarea||||||||||| ||||||||||||compito|||||||| لكن نعم، عندما لا يبدو الأمر وكأنه عمل روتيني أو مهمة عليك إنجازها خلال اليوم. Ma sì, quando non sembra un lavoro di routine, un compito da portare a termine durante la giornata. It's, uh, it's a whole different thing, you know, you go at your own pace and do whatever you want. |||||||||||||personal|speed||||| ||||||||||||||ritmo|||você vai no seu próprio ritmo e faz o que quiser|| ||||||||||||||步調||||| ||||||||||||||Tempo||||| ||||||||||||||ritmo||||| ||||||||||||||速度||||| ||||completamente||cosa diferente||sabes||vas|a tu propio||propio|ritmo propio|||lo que quieras||quieras إنه أمر مختلف تمامًا، كما تعلم، تسير وفقًا لسرعتك الخاصة وتفعل ما تريد. È... è una cosa completamente diversa, sai, vai al tuo ritmo e fai quello che vuoi. It doesn't matter. |no importa|No importa. لا يهم.

No, one's going to be testing you at the end of it. |||||testen|||||| |||||testando|||||| لا، سوف يختبرك أحد في النهاية. It's just for you. Yeah, that's cool. For sure.

Shelby: Yeah, absolutely. ||Sí, claro. شيلبي: نعم بالتأكيد.

Elle: So how long were you in Chile? ||cuánto tiempo|||||Chile Elle: إذن، كم من الوقت كنت في تشيلي؟ Chile.

Shelby: Uh Perfect. ||Uh perfetto. I was there for 14 months. ||||meses Я пробыл там 14 месяцев.

Elle: Oh, nice. Okay.

And what, uh, What would you say you miss the most about the place the country? |||||||||el|más|||||país وماذا أه ما هو أكثر شيء تفتقده في هذا البلد؟ E cosa... cosa direbbe che le manca di più del paese?

Shelby: Um, at this point, I would say what I miss the most are all the friendships that I made there. ||||||||||||||||Freundschaften|||| ||||||||||||||||relationships|||| ||||||||||||||||amizades|||| ||||||||||||||||amistades|||| شيلبي: في هذه المرحلة، أود أن أقول إن أكثر ما أفتقده هو كل الصداقات التي كونتها هناك.

Um, people through work, um, as well as some people outside of work too. ||através||||||||||| ||a través de||||||||||| أم، الناس من خلال العمل، أم، وكذلك بعض الناس خارج العمل أيضا. Um, I have some of my best friends still down there and the, you know, the people that I worked with, especially some of them, um, who I became really close with and um, really mentored them and got to see like them, you know, get promoted and grow a lot through the company. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||guided and supported|||||||||||advanced in position||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||orientados|||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||指導|||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||mentoren|||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||mentored||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||指导|||||||||||晋升||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||me hice||muy cercanos|||||les guié|||||||||||ascender de puesto||crecer mucho|||a través de||empresa لا يزال لدي بعض من أفضل أصدقائي هناك، كما تعلمون، الأشخاص الذين عملت معهم، وخاصة بعضهم، الذين أصبحت قريبًا جدًا منهم، لقد قمت بتوجيههم حقًا وتمكنت من رؤية مثلهم كما تعلم، تحصل على ترقية وتنمو كثيرًا من خلال الشركة. Ho ancora alcuni dei miei migliori amici laggiù e le persone con cui ho lavorato, in particolare alcuni di loro, con cui sono diventato molto amico e a cui ho fatto da mentore e che ho visto promuovere e crescere molto all'interno dell'azienda.

It's, um, it's hard to not work with them anymore. من الصعب عدم العمل معهم بعد الآن. Um, you know, LingQ stole my heart. ||||偷走了|| ||||captured|| ||||||corazón ||||roubou|| أم، كما تعلمون، LingQ سرق قلبي. Sai, LingQ mi ha rubato il cuore. I said, I have to go work at this other company now. قلت، يجب أن أذهب للعمل في هذه الشركة الأخرى الآن. He dicho que ahora tengo que ir a trabajar a esta otra empresa. Я сказал, что теперь мне придется работать в другой компании. But also, you know, just on a friendship level, um, I miss hanging out with them, but of course we've got, you know, WhatsApp and, uh, can stay in touch that way. |||||||Freundschaftsebene|||||abhängen|||||||||||WhatsApp||||||in Kontakt bleiben|| |||||||personal connection|||||spending time|||||||||||messaging app|||||||| ||||||||||||passar tempo|||||||||||WhatsApp||||||manter contato|| ||||||||||||pasar el rato|||||||||||WhatsApp||||||mantener el contacto|| ولكن أيضًا، كما تعلمون، على مستوى الصداقة فقط، أفتقد التسكع معهم، ولكن بالطبع لدينا، كما تعلمون، تطبيق WhatsApp، ويمكننا البقاء على اتصال بهذه الطريقة. Ma anche, sai, a livello di amicizia, mi manca uscire con loro, ma ovviamente abbiamo, sai, WhatsApp e, uh, possiamo rimanere in contatto in quel modo. And it's a blessing to be able to maintain friendships from long distance. |||Segen||||||||| |||gift||||||||| |||bênção|||||manter|||| |||bendición|||||mantener|amistades|||larga distancia وإنها لنعمة أن تكون قادرًا على الحفاظ على الصداقات من مسافة بعيدة. Ed è una benedizione poter mantenere amicizie a distanza.

You know? |¿Sabes?

Elle: Do you think any plans, I mean, when the world goes back to normal, whatever that is, any plans to, uh, visit in the future? |||||planes futuros||||||||||lo que sea||||planes futuros||eh|visitar|||futuro Elle: هل تعتقدين أن هناك أي خطط يعني عندما يعود العالم إلى طبيعته أياً كان أي خطط أه للزيارة في المستقبل؟ Elle: Pensi che ci sia qualche piano, voglio dire, quando il mondo tornerà alla normalità, qualunque cosa sia, qualche piano per, uh, visitare in futuro?

Shelby: Sure. |Claro. Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, and actually I went back, um, like I moved home in the beginning of, or like in the first quarter of 2019. ||||||||||||||||||||2019年第一季度| ||||||||||||||||||||Quartal| ||||||||||||||||||||primer trimestre| أم، وفي الواقع عدت، كما عدت إلى المنزل في بداية، أو في الربع الأول من عام 2019. In realtà sono tornata a casa all'inizio o nel primo trimestre del 2019. Um, and then I went back actually in January of this year, so that was still through work, but I got to see my friends a lot down there too. ||||||||enero||||||||a través de|trabajo|pero||||||||mucho|allá abajo|allí|también حسنًا، ثم عدت فعليًا في يناير من هذا العام، لذلك كان ذلك لا يزال خلال العمل، لكن كان علي أن أرى أصدقائي كثيرًا هناك أيضًا. Ähm, und dann bin ich im Januar dieses Jahres zurückgekehrt, also immer noch durch die Arbeit, aber ich habe meine Freunde dort auch oft gesehen. Volví en enero de este año, así que seguía trabajando, pero también veía mucho a mis amigos. Poi sono tornata a gennaio di quest'anno, sempre per lavoro, ma ho avuto modo di vedere i miei amici anche laggiù.

So, um, I would like to be able to visit for sure. Quindi, mi piacerebbe poterlo visitare di sicuro. And I would love like to go other places as well. ||||||||lugares|| وأنا أحب أن أذهب إلى أماكن أخرى أيضًا. And so a lot of the friends that I have are big travelers as well. ||||||||||||旅行者|| ||||||||||||Reisende|| ||||||||||||viajantes|| ||||||||||||viajeros|| والعديد من أصدقائي هم من المسافرين الكبار أيضًا. So I said, let's meet someplace else next time. Also|||||||| ||||||otro lugar|| |||||outro lugar||| Così ho detto: la prossima volta incontriamoci in un altro posto.

Elle: Oh Yeah, that's a really good idea. That's good. Um, and do you have any advice I was like to ask at the end, um, because I've never, I've never been to South America or central America actually, so, and I'd like to it just, I just. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||中美洲||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||Zentralamerika||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||na verdade||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||||Suramérica|||||||||||||| أم، وهل لديك أي نصيحة أود أن أسألها في النهاية، لأنني لم يسبق لي أن زرت أمريكا الجنوبية أو أمريكا الوسطى في الواقع، لذا، وأود ذلك فقط، أنا فقط.

You know, I grew up in the UK. |||crecí||||Reino Unido I'm really far, but now I'm closeer, so it makes sense. ||||||closer|||| ||||||mais perto|||| ||||||näher|||| ||||||bližšie|||| ||||||更接近|||| ||||||近い|||| |realmente|||||más cerca||||tiene sentido So, um, I will definitely one day. ||||definitivamente|| And what advice do you have? Uh, I know it's a huge place and you were in, um, Ecuador and, uh, Chile, but, uh, do you have any advice for people thinking of visiting or even going to live in one of those countries? |||||||||||||||||||||||||pensando en visitar||visitando||incluso||||||||países آه، أعلم أنه مكان ضخم وقد كنت في الإكوادور وتشيلي، ولكن هل لديك أي نصيحة للأشخاص الذين يفكرون في زيارة إحدى تلك البلدان أو حتى العيش فيها؟

Shelby: Yeah. Um, well, I mean, if you like spicy food, like be prepared that you're not gonna find a lot of it. |||||||||||||||不会||||| |||||||||||||||werden||||| |||||||||||preparado||||vas a|||mucho||comida picante حسنًا، أعني، إذا كنت تحب الطعام الحار، فكن مستعدًا لأنك لن تجد الكثير منه. So like bring, like have a backup plan, you know. ||||||备用||| ||||||Ersatzplan||| ||||||contingency plan|backup strategy|| ||||||plan de respaldo||| ||||ter||plano de backup||| لذا، مثل إحضار خطة احتياطية، كما تعلمون. Quindi portatevi dietro un piano di riserva.

Elle: Bring those spices with you. |||香料|| |||Gewürze|| |||seasoning ingredients|| |||temperos|| |||香料||

Shelby: Bottle of Sriracha or something. |||hot chili sauce|| |garrafa||Sriracha|| |||Sriracha醬|| |Flasche||Sriracha-Sauce|| |||辣椒酱|| |||スリラチャ|| |Botella||Sriracha|| Bottiglia di Sriracha o qualcosa del genere. Шелби: Бутылка Шрирача или что-то в этом роде. Um, and I mean, definitely do your research before you go, just like before you go anywhere. |||||||investigación||||||||vayas| أم، وأعني، بالتأكيد إجراء البحث الخاص بك قبل أن تذهب، تماما كما هو الحال قبل أن تذهب إلى أي مكان. Um, You want to be prepared for, you know, how to pay for things, how to get around. |||||preparado|||||||||||| أم، أنت تريد أن تكون مستعدًا، كما تعلم، لكيفية دفع ثمن الأشياء، وكيفية التنقل.

Like, don't, don't expect to be able to like go to an ATM and make a withdrawal anywhere that you go. ||||||||||||automated teller machine||||cash withdrawal|||| ||||||||gostar||||caixa eletrônico||||saque|||| ||||||||||||Geldautomat||||Abhebung|||| ||||||||||||||||výber|||| ||||||||||||||||取款|||| ||||||||||||ATM|||||||| |||esperes|||||||||cajero automático||||retiro de dinero|||| مثل، لا تتوقع، لا تتوقع أن تكون قادرًا على الذهاب إلى ماكينة الصراف الآلي وإجراء السحب في أي مكان تذهب إليه. Non aspettatevi di poter andare al bancomat e prelevare ovunque. Не ждите, что вы сможете подойти к банкомату и снять деньги в любом месте. Um, and that's general travel advice, of course. ||||旅行||| |||geral|||| أم، وهذه نصيحة السفر العامة، بطبيعة الحال. Um, but that little bit of research really goes a long way. أم، ولكن هذا القليل من البحث يقطع شوطا طويلا حقا. Ma quel po' di ricerca è davvero molto utile. 嗯，但是那一点点研究确实有很长的路要走。 And I would say also, like, see if you can find, um, Facebook groups, um, or there's so many other different platforms you can go on these days, you could use like meetup. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||social gathering app |||||||||||||||||||||plataformas|||||||||||meetup |||||||||||||||||||||Plattformen|||||||||||Meetup ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||meetup |||||||||||||||||||||平台|||||||||||聚会网站 |||||||||||||grupos de Facebook|||||||diferentes|||||||||podrías usar|||encuentro social وأود أن أقول أيضًا، لنرى ما إذا كان بإمكانك العثور على مجموعات فيسبوك أو هناك العديد من المنصات المختلفة الأخرى التي يمكنك استخدامها في هذه الأيام، والتي يمكنك استخدامها مثل اللقاء. E direi anche di vedere se riuscite a trovare dei gruppi su Facebook, oppure ci sono tante altre piattaforme diverse su cui potete andare al giorno d'oggi, come i meetup.

Um, and I think it's called like couch surfing, like all these different platforms you can use to kind of network with people, um, before you get there and ask them for advice. |||||||沙发冲浪|沙发冲浪|||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||Couchsurfing|Couchsurfing|||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||couch surfing|couch surfing||||||||||||connect|||||||||||| |||||||sofá|couchsurfing||||||||||||rede|||||||||||| |||||||sofá|surfing de sofá||todas estas plataformas|||plataformas||||||de|conectar con gente|con||||tú||||pedirles|||consejos أعتقد أن هذا يسمى مثل ركوب الأمواج على الأريكة، مثل كل هذه المنصات المختلفة التي يمكنك استخدامها للتواصل مع الأشخاص، قبل أن تصل إلى هناك وتطلب منهم النصيحة. Credo che si chiami "couch surfing", ovvero tutte queste piattaforme diverse che si possono usare per fare rete con le persone, prima di arrivare a destinazione, e chiedere loro consigli. Um, ve sanırım buna kanepede sörf yapmak gibi deniyor, oraya varmadan ve onlardan tavsiye istemeden önce insanlarla bir tür ağ oluşturmak için kullanabileceğiniz tüm bu farklı platformlar gibi. Um, but yeah, I mean, I would just say like, you know, be open-minded because the people and South America and the various countries within it, um, and central America, like they ||||||||||||||开放思想|||||||||不同的||||||||| ||||||||||||||offen für Neues|||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||receptive to ideas|||||||||||inside of||||||| |||||||||||sabes|||de mente abierta|||||Suramérica|América Latina|||varios|países dentro de|||eh||América Central||| ولكن نعم، أعني، أود فقط أن أقول، كما تعلمون، أن تكونوا منفتحين لأن الناس وأمريكا الجنوبية والبلدان المختلفة داخلها، وأمريكا الوسطى، مثلهم

um, they're, they have a different culture and there's something there's something unique to experience in every culture that you visit and if you expect them to be just like you, but they speak a different language. |||||||||||something unique|distinctive||encounter, discover, enjoy|||||||||||||||||||||| ||||una||cultura diferente|||algo único||algo único|único|a|vivir algo único|||||||||||||||||||||| أم، لديهم ثقافة مختلفة وهناك شيء فريد يمكنك تجربته في كل ثقافة تزورها، وإذا كنت تتوقع منهم أن يكونوا مثلك تمامًا، لكنهم يتحدثون لغة مختلفة. Um, you know, that's probably not true, but you will find that you have so much more in common ||||||||||||||||||in common ||||||verdad|||||||||||| كما تعلمون، ربما هذا ليس صحيحًا، لكنك ستجد أن لديك الكثير من الأشياء المشتركة

than you perceived before going there. ||thought it was||| ||percebido||| ||感知||| ||wahrgenommen haben||| ||생각했던||| ||认为||| مما كنت تتصوره قبل الذهاب إلى هناك. чем вы думали до поездки туда. So like try to actually get to know the people at the every day level and sure. ||||realmente||||||||||||claro لذا، حاول التعرف فعليًا على الأشخاص على المستوى اليومي وبالتأكيد. Quindi cercate di conoscere le persone a livello quotidiano. Так что постарайтесь узнать людей на повседневном уровне. Like do the touristy stuff. |||popular tourist activities| |||turística| |||觀光的| |||touristischen| |||turistické| |||游客活动| |||turístico|cosas turísticas مثل القيام بالأشياء السياحية. Come fare le cose turistiche. Giống như làm những thứ du lịch. If, if you want to, like, that's always fun, but to try to actually interact and get to know people, um, on the day to day level, because you're going to experience a whole different level of that culture and be able to appreciate it a lot more. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||欣赏|||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||way of life|||||value deeply|||| |||||||||||||||||||||||dia 1|||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||interactuar con gente||conocer|||personas|||el|||día a día||porque||vas a||experimentarás|si quieres|completamente|diferente||de||cultura local|y|||para|apreciar||||mucho más إذا كنت ترغب في ذلك، فهذا دائمًا ممتع، ولكن محاولة التفاعل الفعلي والتعرف على الأشخاص، على المستوى اليومي، لأنك ستختبر مستوى مختلفًا تمامًا من تلك الثقافة وتكون قادر على تقدير ذلك أكثر من ذلك بكثير.

Elle: That's good advice. |||conselho ||buenos|Eso es un buen consejo. إيلي: هذه نصيحة جيدة. Yeah. Sí.

Well, thank you so much, Shelby. Bueno||te|||Shelby That was really interesting for me to find out as a, with us also working, not in the same place, it's really nice to get to know a bit more about Eve as well. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Eve's background|| |||||||descobrir||||||||||||||||||||||||||bem ||||para|||||||con|||trabajando||en|||lugar||realmente|||||conocer|||||Eva||también لقد كان هذا أمرًا مثيرًا للاهتمام بالنسبة لي لمعرفة ذلك، حيث أننا نعمل أيضًا، وليس في نفس المكان، ومن الجيد حقًا التعرف على المزيد عن حواء أيضًا. È stato molto interessante per me scoprirlo, visto che lavoriamo anche noi, non nello stesso posto, è davvero bello conoscere un po' di più anche Eve. 与我一起工作，而不是在同一个地方，对我来说，这真是一件很有趣的事情，也很高兴对Eve有了更多的了解。 So, yeah. |Así que, sí.

Shelby: Yeah. Shelby: Sí.| Likewise. In the same way igualmente 同樣地 Ebenso 同样 Igualmente. على نفس المنوال. Thank you. Gracias.| And, and what about, what about Elle? ||||¿qué?||¿Y Elle? Um, what's one of the, I mean, what, what's one of the most recent or most favorite countries that you visited? ||||||||||||||||最喜欢的|||| ||||||||||||||||beliebtesten|||| |cuál es||de|||||cuál es||de|||recientes||más|favoritos recientes|países recientes/favoritos|que||visitaste أم، ما هي واحدة من، أعني، ما، ما هي واحدة من أحدث البلدان التي قمت بزيارتها أو أكثرها تفضيلاً؟

Elle: Wow. |Vaya. Oh, most recent. ||最近的 ||latest Oh, o mais recente. О, самый последний. I haven't been anywhere in a really long time actually. |||any place|||||| |||||||||en realidad |||qualquer lugar|||||| لم أذهب إلى أي مكان منذ فترة طويلة حقًا. Now that I think about it, I haven't even back... I'm from Wales in the UK. ||||||||||||País de Gales||| ||||||||||||Gales|||Reino Unido الآن بعد أن أفكر في الأمر، لم أعد حتى... أنا من ويلز في المملكة المتحدة. Ora che ci penso, non sono nemmeno tornato... Vengo dal Galles, nel Regno Unito. I haven't been back in a couple of years, so I think I always have to say Japan just because I lived there for three years. ||||||un par de|||||||||||Japón||porque|||allí||tres| لم أعود منذ عامين، لذلك أعتقد أنه يتعين علي دائمًا أن أقول اليابان لمجرد أنني عشت هناك لمدة ثلاث سنوات. And yeah, like, like you mentioned with getting to know the people, you know,ever as intimately as, as you can, as a foreigner in a country, um, was just amazing. ||||||||||||||at any time||very closely|||the listener||||outsider||||||| ||||||||||||||||intimamente|||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||親密地|||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||intimacy|||||||als Ausländer||||||| ||||||||||||||||가깝게|||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||intímne|||||||||||||| |||||提到的|||||||||||亲密地|||||||||||||| |||como||mencionaste||conocer a||conocer a|||tú||jamás||íntimamente|tan como|||puedas|||extranjero|||país extranjero|eh|||Increíble ونعم، كما ذكرت، كان التعرف على الأشخاص، كما تعلم، حميميًا قدر الإمكان، كأجنبي في بلد ما، أمرًا رائعًا. Y sí, como mencionaste, conocer a la gente tan íntimamente como se puede, como extranjero en un país, fue increíble.

The people there are just so wonderful, friendly, and warm and just the place is just so steeped in tradition and history. ||||||Amazing|welcoming||||||||||immersed||customs and heritage|| |||||||||acolhedora||||||||imerso|||| |||||||||||||||||深厚的|||| |||||||||||||||||reich an|||| |||||||||||||||||immerso|||| |||||||||||||||||ponorený|||| |||||||||热情||||||||深厚的|||| La||||simplemente|tan|maravillosos|amigable||Afectuosos||simplemente|||es||tan|impregnado de||tradición|| الناس هناك رائعون وودودون ودافئون والمكان غارق في التقاليد والتاريخ. La gente è così meravigliosa, amichevole e calorosa e il luogo è così ricco di tradizione e storia. Oradaki insanlar çok harika, cana yakın ve sıcak ve burası gelenek ve tarihle çok dolu. Những người ở đó thật tuyệt vời, thân thiện và ấm áp và chỉ là nơi này thấm đẫm truyền thống và lịch sử. An it's beautiful. ||Es hermoso. وانها جميلة. And I love it and I miss it all the time. ||||||||||todo el tiempo وأنا أحب ذلك وأفتقده طوال الوقت. И я люблю его и постоянно скучаю по нему. I really, really want to go back sometime soon, but I think my son is two and a half now. |||||||irgendwann|||||||||||| |||||||at some point|||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||ahora ||||||||em breve||||||||||| أنا حقا أريد العودة في وقت ما قريبا، ولكن أعتقد أن ابني يبلغ من العمر عامين ونصف الآن. Vorrei davvero tornare presto, ma credo che mio figlio abbia già due anni e mezzo. So I think when he's around, you know, at an age, he could really enjoy it. |||||present|||||||||| |||||||sabes||||él|podría||disfrutar de ello| لذا أعتقد أنه عندما يكون موجودًا، كما تعلمون، في سن ما، يمكنه الاستمتاع به حقًا. Quindi penso che quando sarà in giro, sai, in un'età in cui potrebbe davvero divertirsi.

So maybe, maybe like 10, I think is the youngest, you know, before age 10, I think maybe just want to be playing and not going to sightseeing or whatever. |||||||||||||||||||||||||tourist activities|| ||||||||mais jovem|||||||||||||||||passear||talvez |||||||||||||||||||||||||Sightseeing|| |||||||||||||||||||||||||pamiatky|| |||||||||||||||||||||||||观光|| ||||||||más joven|||||||||||||||||hacer turismo||lo que sea لذلك ربما، ربما في العاشرة من عمره، أعتقد أنه الأصغر، كما تعلمون، قبل سن العاشرة، أعتقد أنه ربما يريد فقط اللعب وعدم الذهاب لمشاهدة المعالم السياحية أو أي شيء آخر. Quindi forse, forse a 10 anni, credo che sia il più giovane, sai, prima dei 10 anni, credo che forse voglia solo giocare e non andare a fare visite turistiche o altro. 所以也许，也许像 10 岁，我认为是最小的，你知道，在 10 岁之前，我想可能只是想玩，而不想去观光或做其他事情。 So we'll see what kind of kid he is anyway, but yeah, definitely need to get back. ||||||Kind|||||||||| ||||tipo de||niño|||||sí|definitivamente|necesitamos|para||volver لذلك سنرى أي نوع من الأطفال هو على أي حال، ولكن نعم، بالتأكيد بحاجة للعودة. Vedremo che tipo di ragazzo è, comunque, ma sì, deve assolutamente tornare. That's a long way off, actually that's seven and a half years from now. |||||en realidad||siete|||y media||desde ahora|de ahora ||longa|distância|||||||||| هذا طريق طويل، في الواقع هذا بعد سبع سنوات ونصف من الآن. È molto lontano, in realtà si tratta di sette anni e mezzo da oggi.

Shelby: I know

Elle: We'll see if we get there sooner, but... |||||||更快| |||||||eher| |||||||earlier than| |||||||mais cedo| |||||||más pronto|pero إيلي: سنرى إذا وصلنا إلى هناك قريبًا، ولكن... Vedremo se arriveremo prima, ma... Эль: Посмотрим, успеем ли мы раньше, но... Elle：我们会看看是否能早点到达那里，但是......

Shelby: You've got to fit in some, some other trips before then for sure. |||||||||Reisen|||| ||||||||||prior to||| Shelby||tienes que||encajar|||||viajes||entonces||seguro شيلبي: عليك أن تشارك في بعض الرحلات الأخرى قبل ذلك بالتأكيد. Shelby: Tienes que encajar algunos, algunos otros viajes antes de entonces seguro. Shelby: Devi inserire qualche altro viaggio prima di allora, di sicuro. 谢尔比：那之前你肯定要安排一些其他的旅行。 Maybe not as far. ربما ليس بعيدا.

Elle: Yeah, well, I've never been to Portland and Vancouver is so close to Portland, so that's definitely on my list. ||||||||||||||||||||清单上 |||||||Portland||Vancouver||||||||||| Elle: نعم، حسنًا، لم أذهب إلى بورتلاند من قبل، وفانكوفر قريبة جدًا من بورتلاند، لذلك هذا بالتأكيد على قائمتي. So, and Marc, uh, my husband is from Vancouver. ||马克|||||| ||Marc|||||| ||my husband|||||| ||Marc|||||| إذن، ومارك، زوجي من فانكوفر. I don't know if he's been to Portland either, which is crazy really where he grew up in Vancouver. |||||||||||||||creció|||Vancouver لا أعرف إذا كان قد ذهب إلى بورتلاند أيضًا، وهو أمر جنوني حقًا حيث نشأ في فانكوفر. Non so nemmeno se sia mai stato a Portland, che è una follia visto che è cresciuto a Vancouver. Я не знаю, бывал ли он в Портленде, что, в общем-то, безумие, ведь он вырос в Ванкувере.

But have you been to Vancouver? |||||温哥华

Shelby: Yeah, I visited, but I mean, it was a really short, was that the only time? ||||||quer dizer|||||||||| |||visité||||||||corto||||| شيلبي: نعم، لقد قمت بزيارتها، ولكن أعني أنها كانت قصيرة جدًا، هل كانت تلك المرة الوحيدة؟ Shelby: Sì, l'ho visitata, ma è stata una visita molto breve, è stata l'unica volta? I think I've only been once. |||||una vez أعتقد أنني كنت مرة واحدة فقط. It was actually for my birthday a few years ago. |||||||||hace unos años لقد كان في الواقع بمناسبة عيد ميلادي قبل بضع سنوات. Um, but you know, it was like a two to three day trip and there's so much to see there. |||||||||||||||tanto|||ver| أم، ولكن كما تعلمون، لقد كانت رحلة تستغرق يومين أو ثلاثة أيام، وهناك الكثير مما يمكن رؤيته هناك. Um, but I remember days in July and so I like just, I had, I mean, it's just beautiful, perfect weather. ||||||七月|||||||||||||| |||recuerdo|días||julio||así que||||||||||hermoso|perfecto|clima perfecto أم، لكنني أتذكر أيامًا في شهر يوليو ولذا أحببت فقط، كان لدي، أعني، أنه مجرد طقس جميل ومثالي.

And I went with my best friends and, uh, we had such a great time. |||||||||||tan||| ||||||||||tivemos|||| I thought the whole vibe of the city, um, was perfect and I thought I could see myself living there one day. ||||atmosphere or feeling||||||||||||||||| ||||vibe||||||||||||||||| ||||Atmosphäre||||||||||||||||| ||||atmosfera||||||||||||||||| ||||氛围||||||||||||||||| |pensé|||ambiente||||||perfecta|||||podría|||||| اعتقدت أن أجواء المدينة بأكملها كانت مثالية واعتقدت أنني أستطيع أن أرى نفسي أعيش هناك يومًا ما. Ho pensato che l'atmosfera della città fosse perfetta e che un giorno avrei potuto vivere lì.

Elle: I hear it's kind of similar to the vibe in Portland. Sie||||||||||| |||||||||vibe|| ||||||similar|||ambiente||Portland Elle: سمعت أن الأمر يشبه إلى حد ما الأجواء السائدة في بورتلاند. Is that, would you say? هل هذا، هل تقول؟ È così, secondo lei?

Shelby: I think so. I mean, definitely like you have the West coast cities. ||||||||costa oeste|ciudades de la costa أعني، بالتأكيد مثل مدن الساحل الغربي.

I mean, I don't even count LA, but like starting in like San Francisco and then Portland and Seattle, um, you know, like the, the trio, the Pacific Northwest trio in the States, but Vancouver, I think is like the best of all of them, because it it's similar, you know, but it's also. |||||||||||||San Francisco|||||Pacific Northwest|||||||group of three||West Coast|Pacific Northwest|three cities|||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||LA||||||San|San Francisco|||||Seattle|||||||trio||Pacífico|noroeste||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||三人組|||太平洋西北||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||zähle|||||||||||||Seattle|||||||Dreiergruppe|||Nordwesten|Trio|||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||trio|||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||算上|||||||旧金山|旧金山|||||西雅图|||||||三城||太平洋|太平洋西北||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||contar|Los Ángeles|||empezando en||||San Francisco|||Portland||Seattle|||sabes||||||Noroeste del Pacífico|||||Estados Unidos|pero|Vancouver|||||||||||||||||||también أعني، أنا لا أحسب لوس أنجلوس، ولكن مثل البدء مثل سان فرانسيسكو ثم بورتلاند وسياتل، كما تعلمون، مثل الثلاثي، ثلاثي شمال غرب المحيط الهادئ في الولايات المتحدة، لكن فانكوفر، أعتقد أنها مثل الأفضل منهم جميعًا، لأنه مشابه، كما تعلمون، ولكنه أيضًا. Voglio dire, non conto nemmeno Los Angeles, ma cominciando da San Francisco e poi Portland e Seattle, sai, come il trio, il trio del Pacifico nord-occidentale negli Stati Uniti, ma Vancouver penso sia il migliore di tutti, perché è simile, sai, ma anche. It's in Canada, first of all, which is just a great country. |||to begin with|||||||| ||Canadá||de||que|||||país إنها كندا، أولاً وقبل كل شيء، وهي دولة عظيمة.

And it's, um, it's so much more international. |||||||internacional وهي أكثر دولية بكثير. Like I was gonna say it feels more international, but it actually is more international. ||||||||internacional|||de hecho|||internacional كما كنت سأقول، يبدو الأمر أكثر عالمية، لكنه في الواقع أكثر عالمية. You hear multiple different languages being spoken. ||多种|||| ||mehrere|||| ||múltiples|||siendo habladas|hablando تسمع عدة لغات مختلفة يتم التحدث بها. Um, I mean, I went to a lot of touristy places, so maybe that was a reason for it. |||||||||turísticas|||tal vez||||motivo|| أم، أعني أنني ذهبت إلى الكثير من الأماكن السياحية، لذلك ربما كان ذلك سببًا لذلك. Um, but being able to hear like Cantonese and French, and I heard a lot of Spanish too, um, and English, like all the same place that you, you don't get so much of that in Portland. |||||||粤语||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||Kantonesisch||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||Cantonese language||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||Um, mas sendo capaz de ouvir como cantonês e francês, e eu ouvi muito espanhol também, um, e inglês, como tudo no mesmo lugar que você, você não tem tanto disso em Portland.||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||Cantonés|||||escuché||||español|||||||||||||no se obtiene|||||||en Portland حسنًا، لكن كوني قادرًا على سماع الكانتونية والفرنسية، وسمعت الكثير من الإسبانية أيضًا، والإنجليزية، مثل كل الأماكن التي تعيش فيها، فإنك لا تحصل على الكثير من ذلك في بورتلاند. Ma poter sentire il cantonese e il francese, e ho sentito anche molto spagnolo, e l'inglese, tutti nello stesso posto, cosa che a Portland non si sente molto.

Elle: Oh, okay. No, that is, that is accurate for Vancouver, for sure. |||||准确|||| |||||genau|||| |||||correct|||| |||||preciso|||| |||||preciso||Vancouver||seguro لا، هذا صحيح بالنسبة لفانكوفر، بالتأكيد. No, questo è, questo è preciso per Vancouver, di sicuro. It's very multicultural. ||多元文化 ||multikulturell ||diverse in culture ||multicultural ||Es muy multicultural. Yeah.

I think it's, I think it's...we're also 50% of the countries are a city in North America with the highest, um, Asian population. |||||||||||||||||||höchsten||| ||||||||||países|||||||||más alta||asiática| أعتقد أنه، أعتقد أنه... نحن أيضًا 50% من الدول هي مدينة في أمريكا الشمالية بها أعلى عدد من السكان الآسيويين. それは、そうだと思います...私たちは、国の50％が北米で最も、うーん、アジア人の人口が多い都市でもあるのです。我认为，我认为...我们也是北美 50% 的国家中亚裔人口最多的城市。我認為是，我認為是…我們還有 50% 的國家是北美亞裔人口最多的城市。 I think we're around 50% in Vancouver too. ||我们|||| أعتقد أننا نصل إلى حوالي 50% في فانكوفر أيضًا. 我想我們也有 50% 左右在溫哥華。 And yeah, I'm just thinking of my street. 是的，我只是在想我的街道。 So we have like Persian, Chinese, Japanese, like, and there's a whole area in Vancouver, a lot of East Indian. ||||波斯语||||||||||||||| ||||Persian language||Japanese||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||leste| ||||||||||||zona||||muchos|||Indio oriental 所以我們有波斯語、中國語、日語等，溫哥華整個地區都有許多東印度語。

Yeah.

It's really, it's really cool. I do love that about Vancouver, for sure. So, yeah.

Shelby: Yeah. Well, it's important to get exposed to those other cultures. |||||ausgesetzt|||| |||||introduced to|||| |||||||esas|otras|culturas حسنًا، من المهم أن نتعرف على تلك الثقافات الأخرى. Что ж, важно познакомиться с другими культурами.

Elle: I think

so yeah. And it's just like, yeah, it's important for sure. And just so lucky, you know, like to, to have that richness of, um, of culture around is nice. |||||||||||abundance||||||| |||||||||||riqueza||||||| |||||||||||Reichtum||||||| |||||||||||bohatstvo||||||| |||||||||||文化的丰富性||||||| |||afortunado||||||||riqueza|de|||cultura|alrededor de|| So yeah.

Shelby: Definitely |Definitivamente

Elle: you will have to come visit because, uh, we would love to meet you in person one day. ||||||||||nos encantaría|||||||| |||||vir||||||||||||| إيلي: يجب أن تأتي لزيارتنا لأننا أه نود أن نلتقي بك شخصيًا في يوم من الأيام.

The, those of us who were in the Vancouver office, not all of us, but those of us who are would love to have you up. |aquellos||||||||||||nosotros|||||||nos encantaría||a||| أولئك منا الذين كانوا في مكتب فانكوفر، ليس جميعًا، ولكن أولئك منا الذين يرغبون في استضافتك. A los que estuvimos en la oficina de Vancouver, no a todos, pero a los que estamos nos encantaría que subieras. Quelli di noi che erano nell'ufficio di Vancouver, non tutti, ma quelli di noi che lo sono, sarebbero felici di avervi qui.

Shelby: Thank you, likewise. |||you too |||igualmente |||Igualmente Шелби: Тоже спасибо. Shelby: Tôi cũng cảm ơn bạn. Yeah. Sí.

As soon as, uh, as soon as your country starts letting us back in. ||||||||||lässt||| ||||||||||permitindo||| |tan pronto como|||||||país|empiece a permitir|permitiendo||| بمجرد أن تبدأ بلدك في السماح لنا بالعودة. Non appena... non appena il vostro Paese inizierà a farci rientrare. Ülken bizi içeri almaya başlar başlamaz. Yeah.

Elle: Such a weird time. |Tan||extraño|momento ايل: يا له من وقت غريب. Elle: Çok garip bir zaman. I hope there's hope on the horizon. ||||||horizonte أتمنى أن يكون هناك أمل في الأفق. Tôi hy vọng có hy vọng ở phía chân trời. People are being vaccinated now. |||vacunadas| يتم تطعيم الناس الآن. Finally, it's finally, I mean, it's amazing. أخيرًا، أخيرًا، أعني أنه مذهل. Took them so long! ||tanto|tanto tiempo استغرق منهم وقتا طويلا!

Shelby: I know it took long enough, right? شيلبي: أعلم أن الأمر استغرق وقتًا طويلاً، أليس كذلك؟ I'm ready to start traveling again, guys. |listo|||||chicos أنا مستعد لبدء السفر مرة أخرى يا رفاق. Let's get the show on the road. |||espectáculo|||carretera vamos ver|||||| دعونا الحصول على العرض على الطريق. Давайте отправимся в путь. Yes, I would, I would love to come up and stay for a longer stay and be able to meet my awesome coworkers in person that live in Vancouver. |||||||||||||||||||||tollen||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Vancouver Canada |||||||||||||||||||||incríveis||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||impresionantes|compañeros de trabajo||||||Vancouver نعم، أود أن آتي وأبقى لفترة أطول وأن أكون قادرًا على مقابلة زملائي الرائعين في العمل شخصيًا والذين يعيشون في فانكوفر. バンクーバーに住んでいる素晴らしい同僚に直接会えるので、ぜひ長期滞在してみたいです。

Elle: Excellent. Well...

Shelby: we'll make it happen. شيلبي: سوف نحقق ذلك. Шелби: мы сделаем это.

Elle: We will, we will looking forward to it. ||||||anticipating|| Ella|||||||| Well, thank you so much, Shelby. حسنًا، شكرًا جزيلاً لك يا شيلبي. And I will chat to you again at some point for the podcast, if that's okay. وسوف أتحدث معك مرة أخرى في وقت ما من أجل البودكاست، إذا كان ذلك جيدًا. We'll think of some other interesting topics. |||||interesantes|temas interesantes

Shelby: Great. Shelby: Excellent.| |Genial. Yeah, I would love to. ||me encantaría|| It's always great chatting with you, Elle. |||zu plaudern||| |||talking with you||| Um, and, and thanks so much for the questions. ||||非常|||| ||||very much||||

Appreciate it. Lo agradezco.|

Elle: Thank you. Bye

bye. Adiós.